PUTRAJAYA, Nov 19 – The concept of religious freedom does not apply to Muslims in the country, a retired high court judge told an international seminar here.
Datuk Faiza Tamby Chik said, as far as enacted law was concerned, it was clear that it was not easy for one to abandon the practices of the faith.
Citing the case of Lina Joy’s renunciation of Islam, Faiza said the High Court in its decision ruled that a Malay under Article 160(2) of the Federal Constitution remained in the Islamic faith until his or her dying days.
“The said Malay cannot renounce his or her religion through a deed poll and seek a declaration by virtue of Article 11 of the Federal Constitution,” he said when delivering a working paper entitled, “Malay and Islam in Malaysian Constitution” at the two-day International Seminar on Comparative Laws (ISCOM 2008) which ended today.
Speakers from universities in Sydney, Syria, and the Philippines participated at the seminar which was organised by Universiti Sains Islam Malaysia whose speakers also took part.
Faiza is a distinguished Fellow in Faculty of Syariah and Law from the Universiti Sains Islam Malaysia.
On the High Court decision, he said the court also held that even if one was a non-Malay and embraced Islam and become a Muslim convert (mualaf) and later decided to leave the Islamic faith, he or she was still required to report and see the relevant State Islamic Authority which would decide on the renunciation of Islam.
He said non-Muslims in the country had wide religious freedom and that the primary limitation on non-Muslims applied to those whose beliefs and religious practices included the propagation of their faith.
However, Faiza said state law may prevent attempts of non-Muslims to proselytise Muslims.
He added that Article 3 of the Federal Constitution provided a balancing clause that other religions might practice in peace and harmony in any part of the Federation. – Bernama

written by former BN supporter, November 19, 2008
written by Victor Purinton, November 19, 2008
Messed up.
written by Rakyat Jelata, November 19, 2008
written by Chauncey, November 19, 2008
written by pinsysu, November 20, 2008
written by Stand-on-our-feet, November 20, 2008
No offence, we all need to reflect and ask ourselve "Do I know my religion and understand the society that I live in?". .. Again, be honest to ourselve !
written by Saiful Haq, November 20, 2008
written by Peter, November 20, 2008
written by Wakdoh, November 20, 2008
What I know is that Islam treats Muslims and Non-Muslims as brothers.
written by Bigjoe, November 20, 2008
written by senyuman, November 20, 2008
if u r malaysian, u r bound to malaysian law. Nothing that makes u free as a bird just as the name of freedom. same goes to muslim, they r bound to islamic law. for muslim, Islam is the way of life, not like others, mostly view their religion as only obligation to God only and personal matters.
For Muslim, they are all interconnected, from a human to his/her God, a human and human relationship, a human relationship with animal and other things. although maybe not all Muslim practicing true Islam, but on the conversion matter, it is principal issue. Muslim does not tolerate a Muslim who convert to another religion or apostasy. This is not because we do not want to uphold religious freedom, but we do not want to let the Islamic religion conversion a simple matter like changing clothes. when one people has put their faith in Islam, he must ready to understand the Islamic religion principles, because there are obligation and duties in which, he not only serve as God's servants but he must maintain his behavior in every aspects. Other religions maybe a bit differs in terms of practicing their religion and their faith, so there is not a problem for conversion. for Muslim, it is an insult to the religion and God.
For Muslim, freedom of religion mainly is in the aspects of practicing their religion freely without any doubt.
Freedom is not as free as bird. Freedom of expression must come with responsibilities, not just as to speak whatever they beleive and not looking other people. Speak their mind is good, but first review oneself first, is it hurt when people talking something very offensive to us.
written by Olek Skilgannon, November 20, 2008
An easier solution would be to migrate to places where religious freedom and the separation of church and state are taken seriously, both by the legislature and the judiciary.
Malaysia isn't the only game in town.
written by Shawn, November 20, 2008
Look on the other side, look at where Christianity has been for "not" following the rules so strictly.
The balance is the key: People need to have freedom to choose their religions and have obligations to adhere to the religion of their choice once the choice is made. Of course, every religions need an exit clause if found not to be suitable.
written by Kopi O Kau, November 20, 2008
Malaysia boleh !!!
written by Countryman, November 20, 2008
I am talking about every religion, not only Islam.
written by azmin, November 20, 2008
I always heard this from many non-muslim and also non practicing muslim...which however really does not go well with Islamic tenets. Islam govern its followers from all angles of life, since one is born till AFTER one dies. that's why for eating Islam has the Halal concept, for doing business and money related, Islam has Islamic finance, for criminal it has Huhud & qisas and so on...
The thing is, Islam never ask anyone to be a Muslim BUT once you are Muslim, no revert back.
Ok, then someone will definitely ask, what about those born-Muslim? How those would like to renounce Islam if they dislike Islam? This should not happen in the first place if the guy really understand Islam and properly educated about Islam.
The problem is usually this happen if someone is born from broken, non-practicising Muslim family. This happens in Malaysia because UMNO want to make Islam just like the dear "former BN supporter" understand about Islam as private relationship between one and the God. Why is that so? Simply because they con continue to rob the country wealth under the Malay supremacy concept which really go against the real Islamic value and tenet.
written by Alhaj, November 20, 2008
Simply in the name of the Federal Constitution or Human Rights, they cannot overule values/rules enshrined in any religion.
So if you had entered Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia, you cannot simply quit through Oxford University. As you have choose Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia, you have to quit through Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia.
The problem with Moslem converts is that they don't study first the rules of apostacy in Islam before they become Moslems and later when they wish to revert to their old religion or any other and found themselves in a predicament, resorting to the federal Constitution or Human Rights is of no help. The correct course is to go back to the venue of Islam - the Syariah Court for religious statutory declaration.
written by outsider, November 20, 2008
Simply saying you cannot leave Islam, doesn't make that person a good muslim. If you want to be a good muslim (or Hindu, or Christian), you must believe with your heart and soul. If you are just 'going trough the moves' because is expected of you, what will God think of that?
So what then, is the benefit of keeping someone in against their will?
Surely it's not something God would come up with, or no one would want to renounce his faith,
He would simply 'make it so'.
Let people go where their heart goes!
written by Common Man, November 21, 2008
written by thom, November 21, 2008
The problem is usually this happen if someone is born from broken, non-practicising Muslim family."
Pardon me, but I must say that the statement above by Azmin is an outrageous assumption that cannot be proven.
written by Cool Eye, January 07, 2009
Muslims in Malaysia know nothing about other religions outside their faith. The information on other religions was passed to them through their ustaadhs, whom obtained their info from their respective ustaadhs, whom obtained their info from their respective ustaddhs.... yes, it can go on forever...., not of whom has first hand info. All non-islamic religious publication in the country bear a warning statement "not for muslim" on the cover, it works similarly to the "halal" stamp on food produce. The only difference, the "halal" means edible, and the one on the book cover says "non for you to read".
It doesnt mean to be belitling, but honestly, 99% of Malaysians muslims' view on other religions was indeed acquired through pinhole: fragmented, and upside down.




