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Like father like son. Then you should ask mara to open up to all as well. How can national unity be achieved when you have an institution just confine to one race? Talk kok.

He has committed an offense under the Sedition Act. I think, some two decades ago, if my memory has not failed me, Mark Koding was found guilty of a similar call to abolish vernacular schools.

I'm a 35 yr. old Malaysian. I cannot agree more with this suggestion as I have also echoed similiar sentiments to my friends and family. For us to truly unite, there should only be one schooling system.

He is not right about it but not totally wrong, but I would advocate re-introducing the English medium school which his old fart father did away with in the the 70s.

Let the people chose their own medium of instruction. In those days when we have english medium school, there was much greater racial harmony. Just ask the old timers, we know only racial harmony then.

I fully agree that vernacular schools are a source of disunity. At a young age, children of a particular race huddle together, speak a different language. We become separated at a young age.

To what purpose does this serve. The problem is that I do not have any problem if they want to learn chinese, tamil or malay but why do you have to separate them ?. There is more polarisation now then when I was in the primary school in the seventies by virtue of there being more venacular schools as the country is more developed and that the community has more resources.

Hence probably 10 or 20 years from now, we would probably have 2-education system right from the primary level to the tertiary level. One is the malay based national school and the other is the non-malay based public school.

oh boy, another can of petrol into the fire.

It is not a question will but when will somebody throw the whole rig into it.

Back to square one. Now we see the true colors.

So - if they agree with ketuanan melayu. It will be kept? is that what he is saying>??

We'll disband the vernacular system when BN merges into a single entity.

well..i'm waiting for someone to comment over this issues. Seem this will be another big blow apart one by soi lek recently. There would (i think) be different opinion over the issue. It best if we could share the differences in good manners.

What's a damn racist! Like devil fatrher like devil son!

The problem isn't the non-Malaysia misunderstanding what "Ketuanan Melayu" means. The problem is the different ideology of what "Ketuanan Melayu" means to each and every single person, especially to the Malays themselves.

Perhaps these guys should stop using the term "Ketuanan Melayu" altogether.

What we should be championing is the spirit and heart of what a person feel towards the nation... not the colour of our skin. I've seen non-Malays who are more loyal and hopeful of Malaysia than the Malays who have deserted the country. And still.....

Hey, what kind of unity you are advocating here? Submission of one race to the other? Wake up from your slumber land, Mukhriz!! Malaysian will never united as long as there are people like you who justify the "Malay supremacy". Unity is based on equal partnership in building the nation, regardless of your ethnicity, religions or economy background...Unity is not builded on domination of one over the other...

This is totally bullshit, if Unity can be achieved by just getting one kind of education system, Malaysia won't be having problems now.

All issues arrise from people who are in the political field and not students.
New generations of my malay friends are open minded, those who cause problems are those who are staying in the government that are ' Nanyuk'

I agree with one system, but then this also means that we should abolish the NEP and all
special priveleges once and for all. This will be the only way to create a true Malaysian identity.

We should have a needs-based NEP, not a race-based NEP.

I quite agree with Mukhriz that vernacular schools do have take part of the blame in the lack of unity caused by misunderstandings. However, I think that religious schools that teach fundamentalism and fanatism of their respective religions would need to be blamed as well.

Part of me agrees with Mukhriz that there should only be one education system. However, taken into the context of what's going on in the country, the motives of abolishing the vernacular schools must be questioned.
Is it a ploy to eliminate the identity of the minority? Is this is projection of the Ketuanan Melayu agenda?
If Mukhriz is truly interested in unity of the races, then why continue to insist on Ketuanan Melayu when it is the bane and angst of the minority? If the minority are to "sacrifice" their vernacular schools, shouldn't the Malays sacrifice their concept of superiority?
Speaking with forked tongues do not help in progressing unity. Straight talk and sincerity goes further than BS. People can smell it a mile away, and Mukhriz is only fishing for the conservative vote to be elected Youth Chief!

I agree a single school system is the way forward, but the main language should be english given the fact that english is the language of science and technology, furthermore, it makes more sense when we're a multi-cultural country.

Look no further, Singapore is an example we should emulate, their education system is possibly the best.

Although having so many education systems is not a good idea but please do not use 'ketuanan melayu' to justify the abolishement of vernucular schools. If the government is sincere in uniting Malaysians, why not start by offering teaching of Chinese, Tamil, Arabic and other languages plus extra lessons in culture lessons for students in national schools first before suggesting the abolishing of vernacular schools or better still why not let them co-exist? I am sure a lot of parents now are sending their children to vernacular schools only because Chinese is not taught in national schools and Chinese being an important language in the future. National schools nowadays also tend not to produce students who be equally proficient in English and Malay. So, where is the advantage of sending children to national schools in the first place? In addition, please do it fairly, do not just abolish vernacular schools alone for the sake of unity, please also abolish Islamic schools as these schools also seggregate students from an early age.

Mandarin and Tamil (and Hindi?) should be made compulsory to ALL. Why, there are more Mandarin and Tamil speaking people around the world than the whole Malaysian put together. Besides, India and China are few of Asian super power. Doing business or exchange knowledge/technology with them certainly benefits Malaysia/ns.

How about other languages like the Orang Asli or native Sabahan or Sarawakian languages...? We should guard and preserve them like "precious" (I'm feeling like gollum in LOTR). By the way, does anyone here watch Windtalkers? ;)

KY

P/S: The article above should be split into two section: first about abolishing of "what was that" and second about "keTuanan Melayu", notwithstanding the "argument" using the first to explain the second... :)

P/S2: Datuk Mukhriz is well aware of some people (the "campaigners/believers"?) really mean when they speak of ("misunderstanding") of keTuanan Melayu. Perhaps this is his way of distancing away from those believers, or he simply does not agree with them (those believers) or those who "misunderstood". But then who are we to judge. Sigh...

One wonders if YB Datuk Mukhriz's own children are currently studying in a Government school. Or, are his children already studying in fancy, private schools.

If the latter, perhaps YB Mukhriz may be deemed to be NOT stakeholder on such school matters and, therefore, automatically disqualified from making any further comments on this subject of Malaysian government schools - vernacular or otherwise.

If you have a education system that caters to all cultures and languages like Singapore, I'm sure most Non-Malay don't mind sending our children to national school. Unfortunately, today's national school only promote the cultures of teachings of 1 race and religion. (You can't do this, you can't celebrate that) If every non-Malay send their children to national schools, within 2 generations non-Malay children will not able to speak, write fluently in their mother tongues. The Education Ministry has done little or nothing to train or engage good & competent Tamil and Chinese teachers. The bias promotion criteria together with low recognition for these teachers are not adressed to regain the confidence of Non-Malay parents. While UMNO leaders argue that national unity can only be achieved by national type school, they are busy sending their own children to foreign and international schools local and abroad! Perhaps they would like to walk the talk and do what is necessary to regain trust and confidence rather shouting aloud like a Tuan!

Removing diversity and the ability to speak English and other languages is the quickest path to mediocrity. The present Malaysian education system is a total failure. Yet there is this idiotic suggestion to now impose it on everyone. Unity will not be achieved by forcing everyone through the same education system. Why are all the Ministers children studying overseas if the Malaysian education system is so good? The way to unity is for out leaders to stop emphasizing the differences between the races. Disunity is present among the politicians who continues to bring up racial problems and fears where there are none.The ordinary man in the street does not have a problem getting along with each other!

This is just great.....first MCA Dr Chua questions malay supremacy; now UMNO questioning the existence of vernacular schools that will affect Chinese and Indian community. Though unrelated (hopefully), this is not a good development. Each trying to "kill" each other.

It all started with RACE - "My race is better than yours; my race has been here for aeons; my race is the first to conquer this land; my race rules..." - so who says multiracial country is a good way to learn each other's culture?

Sigh, stop man. Stop.

hahahahaha

i thought this guy was stupid

but this one is way beyond

this guy do not belong to parliament

he should in tg rambutan

I'll tell you what should be abolished: the Never Ending Poo (NEP), racial discrimination which leads to racial polarization.

Dear Mukriz and UMNO leaders. We can definately have one education system IF ALL your son, daughters, grand son / daughters study at these schools and not some glitzy international schools. Can or not?
And secondly, if the schools are secular.
Then send them to local universities . In fact, no more foreign education since Malaysian schools are the best in the world.

If Mukriz thinks that he has the root of our education rot and can solve it by destroying vernacular schools , it is just plain silly.

Interesting. Why do our ministers' children study in UK ?

Please tell us why.

The Malays should start talking about the so-called economic supremacy of the Non-Malays and start figuring out for themselves why inspite of all the so-called help from the BN govt, they still consider themselves to be lagging behind. Non-Malays cannot relay on any help from the govt so we have to keep working hard and thinking of new ways to survive. Mostly, it is through hard work and prudent spending, not through any inherent superiority in talent or ability over the Malays. It is the same for everyone. If you do not work to improve yourself, all the help in the world from others will not make you better.

If you give a man a fish, he will eat for a day. If you teach the man to fish, he will be able to take care of himself. How can the Malays improve if the BN Govt continue to restrict them to learning only BM and never expose them to competition. be that as it may, please remember there are also many failures among the Non-Malays as well, but not through want of trying.

Like father like son. This guy speaks on moronic rhetoric like his old man. For peace loving Malaysians, a multiracialism and multiculturalism shouldn't have allowed such a low-class politician in us. Let's make the power of our vote and get those idiots and racists in UMNO out of our Malaysia political scene.

This is the real solution to the real problem that we are facing in this country.

It is true that our kids are not united because they are not growing up together.

Maybe, if we put them together under one education system from young age, we might achieve a greater unity.

Something to ponder because the current system is definitely not working.

I agree that a single school system is necessary if we are going to forge forward. But easier said than done.

first of all, the concept of quotas for bumiputras in the education system must be abolished if we are going to turn out merit based students right up to universities. no point doing away with the vernacular schools once the students leaves secondary and faced with a daunting task of securing a university placement even when the non-malays excel in their exams due to quotas.

when you put children together in primary and secondary schools irrespective of their creed and race, the question of ketuanan was never an issue. teachers too played a part and they should be well trained to handle all aspects of cultural differentiations to educate the young minds, and not to divide them.

in most cases, it is our politicians who trumped up the issues of segretating educations with no clear agenda for a long term plan for the nation resources.

Good. Non-malay welcome racial integrity. This mean Bangsa Malaysian should look forward to

1) Scrap Metrikulasi and all races to go through STMP as uni entry exam
2) Equal development fund ,land and assistance allocate to all religion.
3) Open all classes of government contract to all races.
4) No race political party

The dilemma facing non-malay toward racial integrity is WHY ON EARTH THEY NEED TO ACCEPT MALAY SUPERMACY AND MALAY PRIVALAGE AS BASIS TO DISCUSS RACIAL INTEGRATY? IN FACT ANY THING !

Are non-malay to continue live their life this way for another 50 or 100 years? No way!

Non-malay do not want to continue to tell their kids that non-Malay need to wait for Malay to give up special privilege for another 50 or 200 years !

Be honest with ourself.

I don’t expect this from you, I am very disappointed with you. YB Saudara Mukhriz.

I agree that there should be one National School for ALL MalaysianS, but there should also be one system for everyone irrespective of race, religion and creed. No special grading system for anyone and distinction is only by Results. Selection to Public Schools and Universities should be based on results only and no quota system.

I agree, no chinese or tamil or malay, or religious schools, no Mara, only One National School !!

This will surely make Malaysians Truely Malaysians !!

Makhriz you are trely a visionary leader.

"In a press conference in Parliament, the Jerlun MP said that all schools should teach subjects in Bahasa Malaysia except for language subjects which should be thought in their own languages."

Sorry ya, its bahasa melayu.. not bahasa malaysia..

And secondly,

("I do not feel like a Tuan," he quipped.)

This guy should be locked up into jail and ISA-ed for questioning the social contract.

I ONLY WISH THE SON CAN GARNER ENOUGH SUPPORT TO IMPLEMENT THE ONE SCHOOL SYSTEM. I don't think we need vernacular schools as long as the languages of mother is taught is taught and made compulsory for all pupils. Mahathir, did not have the balls to do it. Lee Kuan Yew had the courage to do it. Sure, there will be alot of sentimental feelings, but think long term. China was fortunate to have Shih Huang Ti who abolished vernacular schools 2000 years ago. India, holding on so called Democratic IDEALS till today is suffering. The biggest opposition to this will come from those with vested interests especially Chinese dominating parties. Lets us think long term. For sure this one step will not solve the years of formenting racial separation especially now who go separate kindergaatens to separate primary schools and at secondary belong to separate school clubs, while watching separate tv channels. Unity and harmony is easy to blow up and needs constant nurturing. Single Schools system will bring acceptance people with different language, cultural and religious background. All races are guilty of poisoning the young minds of other races and this may help reduce the absorbtion of the prejudices of parents towards other races, cultures and religions.

I think all the Polititions has gone overboard Politicising on Race,Religion etc.Why can't you guys have a give and take Policy ,and now questioning on Venacular Schools.Mr. Mukhriz,may I ask Where are you Schooled from Primary to University?What about your children, nephews and nieces?Do you think the Malaysian Chinese and Indians likes puting their children in Tamil and Chinese Schools?Look at the Standard of English of the Secondary Students and even Colledge Students today,I mean the Majority.When the Government changed the Systems of Education after 1977,the Malaysian Chinese and Indians started getting worried in putting their children in Government Schools and even the more well off Malays started putting their children in Private Schools or even sending their children overseas even when they are 10 to 12 years old.Tun Dr. Mahatir even agrees that the Present School Sytem should revert back to teaching Science and Mathematics in English.Have you noticed Malaysians born after 1960-1965,if the do not come from an English speaking families how their command of English is like?Please ask yourself,what has happened since 1977? I was born in 1955,we never had problems with Bahasa Melayu and then Bahasa Malaysia,if we fail in the Bahasa Malaysia we would have failed our Form 3 and Form 5 Examination.Malaysian Chinese and Indians started putting their children in Vernacular Schools because they are worried that their children will be neither here nor there in their studies and that they have to at least build a base for them by giving tuition in English even for those who could ill afford it and then at least their children can still read and write their mother tongue language.Bahasa Malaysia our National Language is still Compulsory in the Vernacular Schools if they were to take the UPSR,PMR ,SPM and STPM examinations.Please let us not be a hypocrite and look and the Standards of Teaching in Government Schools today,from the earlier years.Politicians are Responsible,are they not? I am a Malaysian Chinese and I do not question the Special Rights of The Malays,Bahasa Malaysia is our National Language,we must pledge our loyalty to the King and Country.I was born in Malaysia,grew up here and hope to die in this Country.I would strongly urge all Politicians to look into the Education System and be sincere about it Malays, Chinese,Indians Kadazans,Ibans. Orang Asli, Eurasians and all Malaysians. Put your heart and mind into it and be sincere,make our Country's Education the envy of others.

What this guy is doing is to fuel political fire to gain mileage. Have you thought about why non-Malays do not want to send their children to national schools? You don't? Let me enlighten you:
1. The national school is used to propagate one ideology -- ours is the right one -- that includes religion, language, culture. We are the "supreme".
2. Religious indoctrination and enforcement is rampant. (I was posted to Sabah school a while ago and the Kadazan/Dusun Christian students could not use the rooms for meeting, could not use school buses to camp... only Muslim students were allowed; complaints fell on deaf ears.)
3. Prejudices and racism exist horribly among the teachers.
4. Lackluster performance by the teachers and yet no action is taken.
5. School uniform activities are a joke. Very few active teachers involved; they prefer to sit in the canteen. (My daughter joined the red crescent and spent about RM110 on uniforms, and yet she only got to wear it 3 times in the year.)
6. Promotion of non-Muslim teachers is very rare; but more work, yes. How many non-Malay headmasters/headmistresses are there in national schools?

My conclusion is this Mukhriz guy is taken a step to gather votes and don't take us for a ride. The whole education system in the national school is a shamble. Would you take a risk to send your children there? Honestly...

I challenge you, Mukhriz and dare you to ask UMNO to disband and form a multiracial party for all Malaysian. If you can't then don't talk about abolishing vernacular schools. I bet you don't have the balls. Just like your father you don't think before you speak.

Please then make everything equal and not just the education system. Everything should be based on meritocracy and not on race and religion. I am sure you then have 100% support from the non malays.

Why do well off Malays especially umnoputras send their children to overseas for their education? Before you start to talk cock, stop wasting the tax payers money and make sure that all Malaysian study only in our country. Economic supremacy of some non malays are due to croniism especially by your old man. The rest took risks to suceed but those who failed had "Ah Longs" on their backs. What is wrong with working hard for the money? There are alot of poor chinese and indians who are not benefiting from the the system but yet they did not ask for a handout. Only justice and fairplay. Are you clueless as to what the hidden agenda in malay supremecy? You are no better than kairy & kerishamuddin. Your racist attitude will be noted in the next election! We will remember what you said and vote accordingly.

Saudara Anan Duran comments makes for persuasive reading. The part about Emperor Shih Huang Ti abolishing vernacular school 2000 year is most interesting if it is really true, just to show how one writing and one language can unite people of varying background.

Anyway its about time we join we join the other 99% of countries in this world which only allow Government backed education in one language after all this is also the talked about globalisation process. Singapore done it, heck the People's Republic of China have done it a very long time ago, for the sake of our Country's unity our administrators must have the political resolve to do it but also must take into account what people like Saudara Larry have to say. Hey,Globalisation should not just mean economic globalisation which is the battle cry of the minorities when asking for abolishment of the NEP betul tak?

Bullshit !!

Don't blame Chinese school or Tamil School because of your Ketuanan Melayu concept !!
The fact is your Papa is abused the ketuanan Melayu Concept. We, chinese and indian do not misunderstanding on Ketuanan Melayu !!

Your Ketuana Melaya just purely Tuan and Hamba relationship !!
Please ask Your Papa , he is the Bapa of Ketuanan Melayu !!

Go to blame your papa on Ketuanan Melayu!!
Dont blame Chinese school or Tamil school.

makanlah daging lagi . sekarang dah kena mad cow disease sama dengan bapa juga. like the malay saying goes " bapa borek anak rintek ".

I agree - do away with Vernacular Schools but also do away with the likes of MARA, etc. Similarly, we should also do away with the religious schools for teh same reasons. No more quota systems but fair treatment for all poor people regardless of race!

This must be a joke. I'm raised to go to "Sekolah Kebangsaan" and I disagree that "Sekolah Kebangsaan" will unite all races. It's not the school that divide us. It's the politician that divide all of us. It's the keris waving that divide us. It's the call to ask other race to be shipped to other country such as China, India. We can't even have a sensible dialogue to discuss about sensitive issues. Combining school is just a superficial fix only. We must tackle the tough issue. In the 60s, there are a lot of Malaysian Chinese that send their kids to English school. Why is these numbers dwindling? Is it because of the quality of the education in vernacular school?

Once again, combining school is just superficial fixes. What have the government done for our Malaysian of Indian ethnicity? Also, what have the government done to help Sabah states on illegal immigrants? Lastly, we must also remember to help the poor Malaysian of Indonesian decent that are living in poor living condition at KL, Selangor.

Such suggestion to abolish vernacular school is obviously political motivated, in order to him to gain support during the Amno Election. Shame on you, Mukrizzzz.

This is from Eddy's posting "The part about Emperor Shih Huang Ti abolishing vernacular school 2000 year is most interesting if it is really true, just to show how one writing and one language can unite people of varying background."

What happen to Indonesian Chinese that use local name and speak local language during the early 90s? As I recalled, there are grandma and grand children were raped. I do hope that going to "Sekolah Kebangsaan" would unite us. There are fundamental problems with Malaysia unity. Eliminate vernacular school will not stop the politicians making racist remarks. Who waved the keris? Who suggested to soak keris with Chinese blood? Have you seen other races suggest to soak other races blood? A lot of us weep because we love this country. Why am I asked to return to China when I'm a fourth generation Malaysian? Is this consider racist remark? Do you think "Sekolah Kebangsaan" will stop racist remarks?

The main causes of racial polarisation happened when small kids grown up, as adults, as parents when facing unfairness policy every where .... so suggest to abolish racial party such as UMNO, MCA, MIC etc ... all kids are ignocent and they can mix well regardless of colour, languages etc at any time, any place .

It just goes to show how the BN Government continues to be populated by so called "leaders" or "aspiring leaders" who continue to be increasingly out of touch with the rakyat's aspirations.

Yes, a single education system is the way forward if ever there is going to be genuine national unity in this country. but then..............

Personally, I'm all for one national school that unites all races. In vernacular schools, the kids only mingle with like-minded, and more often than naught, kids of the same race. But see, I doubt the motives for his suggestion, and for this national school to truly be a success to unite the races, then abolish the quota system and make it a meritocracy. If not, it's all just talk.

The comments show that every races are truly racist may they be Malays , Chinese & Indians , the 3 major ethnic races in Malaysia.

We say we are Malaysians , accept BM as our national language but am still not accepting BM as the medium of teaching as our own Malaysian Education System to unite all Malaysian. Why ? Yes , an end to all vernacular schools and the Chinese language , Tamil language and other ethnic languages be taught as compulsory language subjects for the various races offered in one school education system. Why not ?
I will further add that as English is a global language , the teaching of proper English ( grammar, comprehesion, sentence construction , precis , essay writing , vocabulary & oral )should be emphasised with compulsory examinations.

Religious Education for different religions should also be offered with the same degree of conviction so that every races at primary level are comprehensively taught each own religion. There should be no more bias of Islam as the only religion taught in Government schools eventough Islam is the official religion of Malaysia.

We're one Malaysian..... therefore we should have one type of school i.e. a Malaysian school... no Chinese & Tamil schools same like in Australia that their citizen should learn BI and in Malaysia learn BM... if not don't become Malaysian citizen... Chinese & Indian can learn their mother tongue like what Singaporean do... higher Mandarin and higher Tamil.

Let me share with all of you. For Additional Mathematics of SPM standard, 11 marks is the passing mark. The same goes to many other subjects. This is the standard of national schools. The whole system is rotten. The Malays say busuk macam tahi.

Have you seen the questions in the Modern Mathematics and Science paper of SPM ? It is probably 1/3 the standard of 'O' Level.

Have you ever interviewed any Sekolah Kebangsaan students from a sub-urban or rural area ? You shall know the standard. Whose doing ? UMNO. UMNO spoilt the Malay race. UMNO destroyed the confidence of Malays. UMNO wanted to pass as many Malays as possible in the exams and hence they lowered the marks. UMNO do not help to create competitive Malay race. UMNO do not want Malays to be competitive because they can hold on to power.

The smarter the Malays, the more UMNO will not have any future because they could no longer hold on to power.

So, does national school has standard ? Will UMNO really want the National School to flourish and fly ? NO !

If you visit the APIIT's private school in Subang or Sri Cempaka in Damansara, you will find many Malay children study in these prestigous schools ? Why ? Because the smart and rich Malays have no confidence in the national school system. The middle class and poor Malays have no choice.

Worst still, many national schools in the urban areas have 1/3 of the students who are Indonesians.

These are the details that make Malaysians wept. And this is the standard which comes from a 'future' leader such as Mukhriz from UMNO.

Oh No... Rakyat, please don't dance with the UMNO-MCA-MIC music. If to abolish different language based schools. First,
ABOLISH racial-based parties, namely UMNO, MCA, MIC. Everything has to be from the bottom down…
ABOLISH constitution article that category Malaysian as “Bumiputra”, or “Bukan Bumiputra” (This is the most serious mistake than Malaysia history ever made).
ABOLISH that only certain racial group in Malaysia have special privileges. All Malaysian have to be totally EQUAL under the Malaysia Constitution.
BAN the using of the so-called “Ketuanan Melayu”. Never in Malaysia Constitution that have this kind of discriminative words. How ever you what to define it. Who ever support it, please check up your Kamus, whatever version you use it.
ABOLISH!!! ABOLISH!!! ABOLISH!!! Abolish all discriminative policies, laws, directives etc in MALAYSIA. These have separated all Malaysian for 51 years. We need a Revolution, not just Reformation…

How can I trust thatbody if thatbody cannot be trusted. If this is a vision of the Pakatan Rakyat Federal Government, at least I can listen out with a peace of mind knowing fully well it is a true government by the people, of the people and for the people. What say U.

Mukhriz, when you read the comments of your statement and how the people lambast you, how do you feel? Obviously, it was the Malay votes you were trying to buy for the UMNO Youth chief post. It also means you are willing to go to great lengths to achieve it even if it was going to hurt the non-Malays. Doesn't that make you a little racist? The "wisdom" in you blinded you in seeing the greater atrocities like MARA, PKNS, All Malay schools and educational institutions, the not so standard matriculation, the 10% cheaper home discrimation(even for the rich), promotion after promotion for certain group of Government servants and many more that I can't recall off hand. Non-Malays have always been hurt by these, but somehow for the sake of ALLEGIANCE TO JALUR GEMILANG AND NEGARA KU MALAYSIA, OUR REVERED KING, OUR RAKYAT LOVING SULTANS, OUR UNDIVIDED ACCEPTANCE AND RECOGNITION OF ISLAM AS THE OFFICIAL RELIGION AND BAHASA MALAYSIA AS OUR UNITING LANGUAGE, we stay composed. We have been to so many foreign countries and yet for all the unequalness we endure here, we still come back to BELOVED MALAYSIA and say to another non-Malay, 'NOTHING LIKE MALAYSIA'.
So please sir, don't get emotions due to vested interest, get the better of you to the extend that you perhaps, inadvertantly forgot that many different races, some being even the 10th generation non-Malay live in BELOVED MALAYSIA.

I was a student from SJK(C). I learned to be hardworking as there were tons of homework. There were Malays and Indians too in primary school. During primary school, I don't feel that we are different. All teachers usually take extra care of Malays and Indians, and Thai students as their mother tongue languages are not mandarin.

After standard 6, I studied in SMK. I mixed around with chinese, malays, indians. There are many intelligent Malays and so as for Indians and chinese students. The pace of learning began to slow down that time. I have learned to be sabar, relax. Yay, enjoy life, why not? They enjoy life and they scored good result too. So, I think there is no problem to slow down the pace of learning.

After PMR, almost all Malays students left for MARA and sekolah berasrama. Then, Indians and Chinese students were still mixing around very well. I learned to catch up the pace of learning again as we were told that it is very hard to get JPA scholarship for non-bumi. Those indians and Chinese left over in SMK starting to feel the divergence of the system to help BUmi and feel the unfairness. Malay teachers started to teach us that we are immigrants kind of things. We felt deeply saddened. But, do we have a choice to rebute?

After SPM, many people starting to apply for MARA matrikulasi. Can u imagine that we paid fees for schooling, and MARA students are being paid in terms of allowance for schooling? That's 1000 per semester. However, it is open only 10%. There were rumours that only not very good result students can get into matric and also those kampung students. A lot of non-bumi can't get JPA scholarships although their results are like 10A+++. Most of us continue to study STPM.

During STPM, we felt that the syllabus is damn hard. THat's the time we experienced the unfairness in
the system. I strived very hard so as to break the so called meritokrasi university admission system. I got my first choice anyway. MAtric and STPM is the same. Bluff who? If they are the same, why not MAtric being recognized globally. Matric only uses 1 year and STPM is 1.5 years. Actually, STPM is 2 years as we wasted the time from dec to may for form 6 to start. This means that for every batch of STPM student who gets into Uni, there are 2 batches of students get into uni. Matric syllabus is much easier. My friend studied in Matric so I know. Matric students are at advantage in getting their first choice and getting into local uni.

Although I have gained admission into UM, I have chosen to go to National University of Singapore to explore more. At NUS, I started to feel the competitiveness amongst students that I have never experienced in Malaysia. I fell that I am in a world-class university where students are really great, be it in studies, co-cu, and thinking skills. It is very hard to compete with others. Many Malaysians students feel that they are much left behind.

After saying so much of my experience, what I wanna say is, let's forget about races and have a real and truly meritokrasi system. It is so funny that the gov has urged non-bumi to study in SMK but then there comes a divergence system for BUMI in Mara Matric. Say, meritokrasi but using 1 recognised globally exam and 1 not for university admission. Basically, because of this, I have only studied together with Malays for 3 years. The problem is not in primary school. Mother tongue primary education is important. If not, why always my primary school teachers take extra care of non-chinese? If we don't have the basic and straight away let 7 years old child to get into SK. I don't think many will like to study. They might be much left behind, hard to catch up, depressed.

I can still mix with other races very well from form1 to form3. Gov can't say that vernacular schools and independent schools are bad for unity but at the same time creating sekolah berasrama and MARA for bumi only, though it is opened 10% now on the demand of Samy vellu.

As I have said,it is found that Malaysians find it hard to compete and get good results in NUS. The protection system does not only cause Bumi to be shielded from competition but weaken the ability of other races to compete as well. It is a common mistake that Chinese students who scored very good results will assume that they are superior and talented. That is so wrong. That is because we are lacking competition from 65% of the population. Can our country remain competitive in the stream of globalization?

The quality of the postings and comments here i.e. broken English, bad spelling, wrong grammar just goes to prove that our education system is a failure.

Like it or not, English is here to stay. Even the mainland Chinese in China are learning English.

I attended a national school (La Salle Secondary PJ) and am proud of it.
I was exposed to creative thinking, the arts, quality teaching. Most important of all, the
teachers instilled in us a love for country, a love for knowledge and good morals.

The school started to deteriorate when the government removed the La Sallian brothers
from the school adminstration. And over time the good teachers just left or retired.

However I would not send my child to a national school today. It really is a shame.
I think you can count with both your hands where the rest of the remaining good
national schools are. Most of them are in PJ, Damansara and Subang. But how many
young working class families can afford to live in these areas?

Even if PR takes over the government in the next GE, it will take 10 years to undo all
this crap caused by 22 years of bad policies.

More than the vernacular schools, the discriminatory policy is a greater cause of disunity. I wholly support a simultaneous abolishment of both from our landscape. The emphasis here is SIMULTANEOUS.

Otherwise, the act of abolishing one without the other will lead to greater disunity than ever before.

Mukhriz is definitely correct - no doubt about it. Malaysian Chinese hated to be called disloyal citizens but the fact is that significant number of them are not truly Malaysian at heart. They still want to cling to their Chinese schools. Even our the then PM Lee Kuan Yew has abolished the vernacular schools otherwise Singapore may have Communist government by now. Thank God.

I totally support that we should do away with the vernacular school. It is a bloody shit when chinese wanted to keep their chinese type of school whilst at the same time telling malay should don away with their ketuanan melayu. Hey have you guys forgotten history .... anyway fast forward...to build a one nation we should embrace one type of school which should be fully supported by government. In national school, BM is compulsory and English should be as equally important and other languagues such as chinese and indian should be made as an elective subjects. At the end of the learning one should be able to be fluent in 3 languagues. There should be a total racial intergration in the education process....we need a total revamp for the sake of our beloved country.

Mukhriz Mahathir is quoted as saying, "How can they talk about unity and question Malay rights, while they still insist on having a different school system for their race? If you want equal rights then you cannot have a different school system. You cannot have your cake and eat it too."

I just want to remind everyone that Mukhriz is the President of ANSARA, an alumni organisation of Maktab Rendah Sains MARA (MRSM). Apart from a token presence of a handful of non-Malay students, MRSM is almost exclusively for Malay students. In fact, it is prided as a key Malay educational institution. It is, in many ways "a different school system" for the Malay race.

So please excuse me if I feel sick in the stomach when Mukhriz says the same thing about vernacular schools and advocates its abolishment. Mukhriz can only redeem himself by saying that he supports MRSM and UiTM opening its door fully to non-Malays based on merit. Otherwise his comments are opportunistic, hypocritical and downright idiotic.

This status can be debated and challenged unless in parliament with 2/3 approval amend our constitution.

Can someone lodge police report against Mukhriz as Malay groups lodge a police against Chua Sok Lek?

Those believe vernacular school is main source of disunity shall now fly to Thailand to see themselves how a country with one language and one school syetem is more disunited and violent than Malaysia.

Factors contributed to polarization are

1. Race identification in our IC.

2. Race-based NEP.

3. Race-based political parties dominate political scene.

Vernacular schools although taught in Chinese and Tamil, the syllabus is exact same copy with national school. Agong is their King, Negaraku is still their national anthem, Malaysia is still their motherland, etc.

Why there is more Malaysian Chinese going to vernacular school? Why is there more Malay going to Chinese school? Is it because of the quality of education? Maybe that's the reason a person like me, non-Chinese educated Malaysian, sending his kid to vernacular school for better education.

Quality of comments prove that our education system is a failure
written by riffer, December 01, 2008
The quality of the postings and comments here i.e. broken English, bad spelling, wrong grammar just goes to prove that our education system is a failure.

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This attitude also prove our schools fail to produce citizens who can tolerate other shortcomings.

Being Malaysian means equality for all. Eliminating vernacular schools is only one part of the education equation.

The other side of the coin is opening up all education avenues like Mara & matriculation to all Malaysia.

Next is getting the right standard of teachers into education system. It is hard not to take notice when teacher core KPIs are not based students abilities but rather other schematics.

National unity is a must, however unless it prevails at all levels, segregation will continue to occur as selected members of Malaysia gets sent of to facilities such as MARA, Matrics, JPA etc. So let's talk about the big picture instead of pieces of the pie.

He was told to pass all of them. Don't care whether they are poor or otherwise. All students in the matriculation must pass their exams such that they are assured a place in the local universities.

This is the product of national schools and the product of one-race hold on to power. In the education ministry, how many non-Malays are there ? Everything is skewed and manipulated.

The day for justice is coming.

This status canNOT be debated and challenged unless in parliament with 2/3 approval amend our constitution.

what is this guy trying to do? he's trying to start a riot or what? maybe the chinese and indian should move to east malaysia with the orang asli and run their own government without the malay, and let the malay run their own government as they like in peninsula, so there no racial problem for them at all. All trouble is solve with what ever they are trying to say or do or whatever they want, perhaps this is what they wanted for from the beginning?

Received this article from friend. The performance of our Universities is so poor and going down fast!!! Anyone could tell what kind of education system we have, and what kind of "brain" the national school system produced -- or I should said "UMNO's type of school". Qualified by "color" only both student and teacher!!!! You will have good living and make tons of money as long as you remain stupid and support UMNO-supremacy!!! Billions and millions of our hard earn RM wasted on....unemployed uni gra with toilet degree noboby want,or can't work. Even the doctor we produce are pshyco!!!! Look at the deliver system of UMNO-SUPREMACY oriented policy.....all the dogs follow behind you idiot will get feed but know nothing and do nothing, bulk at the passing car.....
read on for the real states of our once famous UM and ......
For the second consecutive year, Malaysia had fallen completely out of the list of the world's Top 200 Universities this year in the 2008 Times Higher Education Supplement (THES)- Quacquarelli Symonds (QS) World University Rankings. The national shame of Malaysia falling completely out of the list of the world's Top 200 Universities this year in the 2008 Times Higher Education Supplement (THES) - Quacquarelli Symonds (QS) World University Rankings is being compounded by the ignominy of Malaysian universities losing out not only to
top universities in Singapore, China, Japan, Hong Kong, Taiwan and South Korea but also to other South East Asian nations like Thailand, Indonesia and Philippines. The 2008 THES-QS rankings should be a "wake-up" call to the Higher Education Minister and the Cabinet of the advanced crisis of higher education in Malaysia, but I have given up hope that the Barisan Nasional government is capable of "waking up"!
For the second consecutive year, there is not only not a single university in the 2008 THES-QS Top 200 Universities list, there is also not a single university in the separate ranking of Top 100 Universities for five subject areas – Natural Sciences, Social Sciences, Arts and Humanities; Life Sciences and Biomedicine; and Technology.
Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia (UKM) and Universiti Malaya (UM) were in the 2006 Ranking, placed No. 185 and 192 respectively.. UKM plunged to 309 last year and improved to 250 this year while UM fell to 246 last year improving slightly to 230 this year – but both remain outside the Top 200 Universities ranking.
The government named Universiti Sains Malaysia (USM) as the Apex University but it has a dismal international rankings after being included once in the Top 200 Universities list –No. 111 in 2004, No. 326 in 2005, 277 in 2006, No. 307 in 2007 and No.. 313 in 2008. It is both sad and pathetic that our Apex University, the USM, at No. 313 ranking, is not only left far behind in South East Asia by Singapore (National University of Singapore No.30 and Nanyang Technological University No. 77) but also by
Thailand (Chulalongkorn University No. 166), Indonesia (University of Indonesia No. 287) and the Philippines (Ateneo de Manila University No. 254 and University of the Philippines No. 276).
Until last year, Malaysian universities were all ranked well ahead of the Indonesian universities, but in the 2008 THES-QS World Top Universities ranking, Indonesianuniversities are catching up with Malaysian universities in leaps and bounds. Last year for instance, the three top Indonesian universities were all ranked behind the Malaysian universities– University of Indonesia (UI) No. 395, Bandung Institute of Technology (ITB) No. 369 and Gajah Mada University (UGM) No. 360, as compared to the three top Malaysian universities University of Malaya (UM) No. 246, Universiti Sains Malaysia (USM) No. 307 and Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia (UKM) No.309.
In this year's ranking, University of Indonesia has improved by 108 placings to be ranked as No. 287, Bandung Institute of Technology No. 315 and Gajah Mada University No.316.
This means that in the 2008 THES-QS Ranking, University of Indonesia (No. 287) has narrowed the gap with University of Malaya (No. 230) and Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia (No. 250), while ahead of Malaysia's apex university,Universiti Sains Malaysia (No. 313), University Putra Malaysia(No. 320) and Universiti Teknologi Malaysia (No.. 356).

Beware of this politician's definition of Unity
(it likely mean simply visiting either a hariraya, cny, or deepavali function once a year - probably so that politicians can assert success at managing a multi-racial nation)

What is your definition of Unity ?
(better still what do you want out of Unity ?)

All these fellow run out of topic, noting good from them!! not much different compared with his colleague!!, what they are doing are harping on other races and related issue. they never look at themselves. They never learned to walk on other people shoes and empathize the feeling of other people. We just cannot imagine what will the country like if they become PM one day, hope this will never happen.

There are tow group of people to be blame for the mess in the education system. The "educationists" in the Ministry of Education and the UMNO politicians especially the Minister Of Education for the past two decades.

The objective of the education is very simple. Create a nation of "blind people". Have a group of elite educate from young in elite school and English universities to rule over the "blind". Mukhriz Mahatir is one of the elite. He had never step foot into the local education system. So what do he know.

As a result of this strategy, we are in this bloody mess.

Vernacular schools r not the cause of racial polarization. Racial politics n policies practiced by BN/UMNO r the cause.

What's the point of having the children going to the same national school, telling them we r all Malaysians regardless of race only to let them find out later that we r not equal after all?

When time comes for applying for universities entrance/jobs in civil services or promotions in GLCs, they learn that there is this called Ketuanan Melayu, Bumiputera etc. To gain entrance into universities skin colors matter. What they learned in primary schools were just academic n not reality. That is the REAL n ROOT cause of racial polarization.

Besides after 6 yrs of vernacular primary most of them attend Sekolah Kebangsaan. Not only that Chinese vernacular schools r known to produce better students than National Schools. It's a well known facts acknowledged even by TDM at one time.

Mukhriz is just a mouthpiece of TDM to do his father's unfinished mission of finishing off the vernacular schools.