By Debra Chong
KUALA LUMPUR, Feb 5 — The Perak Sultan’s decision today in asking for the Mentri Besar Datuk Seri Nizar Jamaluddin’s resignation and denying consent to dissolve the state assembly has become the subject of legal debate among experts here.
“The problem in Malaysia is that the law is not allowed to take its course,” Abdul Aziz Bari, a law professor at the International Islamic University told The Malaysian Insider this afternoon.
He explained that while it is the Sultan’s “prerogative” to say “Yes” or “No” to a request to dissolve the state assembly and pave the way for fresh elections, the Sultan should not insist on the resignation of his appointed MB until it is clear he no longer holds the majority support of the state’s lawmakers.
“I think the Sultan has made a mistake,” said Abdul Aziz.
He explained the need to clear the disputed status of the three assemblymen for Behrang, Changkat Jering and Jelapang who yesterday announced their support for the Barisan Nasional (BN) coalition after having left the Pakatan Rakyat (PR) coalition to be independents.
Abdul Aziz said the courts must make a decision before a special sitting of the state assembly can be held to table a motion of no-confidence against MB Nizar.
Only then can the Sultan insist on Nizar’s resignation, paving the way for the BN’s takeover of the state government.
Human rights lawyer Malik Imtiaz Sarwar cautiously shared Abdul Aziz’s view.
He observed that the law states the ruler must be convinced the incumbent MB no longer commands the majority support of the state assembly.
But, he added the law was vague on how the ruler is to arrive at that conclusion.
“The Constitution only talks about the lack of confidence and does not talk about how it is to be manifested,” Malik said.
“The central question is whether the Sultan is in a position to be sure that the MB no longer has the confidence of the majority of the House,” he added.
He noted that conventionally, the state assembly can take a vote of no-confidence against Nizar, such as federal Opposition Leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim attempted in Parliament against Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Badawi late last year.
However, there may be other unconventional methods to convince the Sultan of the lack of confidence in Nizar.
“For example, if a big enough of the majority assemblymen meet him en masse to declare they no longer support the MB and he is convinced.
“In that scenario, the MB has no option but to tender his resignation,” said Malik.
He noted the 31-member delegation of BN and independent assemblymen who met up with Sultan Azlan Shah earlier this morning seems to have effectively convinced the ruler who was previously placed in a very difficult position.
But, Malik noted too that the political events in Perak which have been unfolding in such rapid-fire succession, may have been portrayed incorrectly.
He noted that it was complicated by the PR government asking the Sultan to dissolve the Dewan Undangan Negeri, leading to the messy deadlock between the PR and BN coalitions.
“It could be said there is no situation of no-confidence here because of the dispute over the two seats,” Malik said.
He added that Datuk Seri Najib Razak’s 31-assemblymen march to the Sultan for a show of no confidence against MB Nizar could not be accepted in the current political landscape.
“A vote of no-confidence can only be taken by people who are legitimately entitled to vote, meaning people who are still assemblymen,” he clarified.
“As such, the legal basis of the Sultan’s directive may not be found,” he added.
Malik agreed with Abdul Aziz for the status quo to remain until the courts have decided whether the Behrang and Changkat Jering state seats are vacant in line with the speaker’s order recognising the pre-signed quit letters of their incumbents Jamaluddin Mohd Radzi and Mohd Osman Mohd Jailu respectively.
“If the court decides in favour of the speaker, then everything would have to be unwound,” he remarked.
Likewise in the case of the Election Commission which on Monday denied the speaker’s call for by-elections in Behrang and Changkat Jering, Malik states that the Sultan does not hold the authority to conclude on the validity – or invalidity – of the PR-led state government.
“Keeping in mind that this is not a conventional situation of a no-confidence vote, that this is a crossing over, and that two seats are in dispute, the question whether the Sultan can direct the resignation of the MB or otherwise does not arise because respectfully, he does not have the power to do so,” Malik said.
He is alarmed at the pace at which the police are acting in Ipoh, even moving to surround the state secretariat building and ordering the incumbent government workers out for a BN takeover.
“The law enforcers are now enforcing rules untenable to the law. Where is the authority coming from,” Malik questioned.
He is worried the Perak crisis may point to a bigger crisis for Malaysia next month when DPM Najib is set to succeed Abdullah as Prime Minister after the Umno party elections.
He noted that while the BN may win in reclaiming Perak, it will affect its performance in the long run.
“If the Perak scenario is replayed at the federal level in favour of the Pakatan Rakyat, there is a high possibility of a similar outcome,” said Malik.

written by Mr Smith, February 05, 2009
written by superyoga, February 05, 2009
1. The corrupted MPs will not be charged in court because if they are chraged and found guilty then they have to vacate their seats and BN will not want that because they 'stole' the seat from PR
2. The DAP MP will be afraid to come out and not be a good lawmaker because she has made the people very angry. She will be despised by all and even ex-MCA President Ong Ka Ting should not have given advice to join BN
3. The so-called friend of Anwar Ibrahim is aloso the same but he being a seasoned frog will not be accepted by the Malays
4. There is no legitimacy of the Government of Perak from the Rakyat, so whatever BN will be doing is to undo the work of PR and at the end of the day the Rakyat suffer again
I do not want to be disrespectful but the Sultan of Perak as an Ex-Lord President, it is not the simple majority of assemblymen that moves in and out of different coalition but to discourage such FROGS to continue to do such things. This is just plain cheating of the Rakyat who voted for them. If it had been a simple voting of a few people who had betrayed the people's trust then, why do we need democracy. We just encourage Political Corruption and go back to the same old system that is despised by the people.
DYMM Sultan Perak, we appeal to you to do the right thing because as the Royal Institution who is supposed to protect the rights of the rakiyat, do you not think by dissolving the the state assembly and going back to the rakyat will solve the problems once and for all?
By doing so, we will have a negative culture and set the wrong precedent - worse issue is we will have a lost of investor confidence on the goverance and stability of the country. I do not see how BN will insist to charge the two elected reps on corruption. It will be another case of BN corruption and their ability to corrupt justice to the benefit of themselves only.
The MCA and MIC who participate in such activities must be punished also. There is no confidence of by winning in default and such actitivites if accepted by MIC and MCA means they are in collusion and again go under UMNO whims and fancy.
Furthermore, where is the representation of Chinese and Indian in the Perak State Government?
NONE!
Tuanku, you have failed the not only the Perakians but the Malaysians!
written by flyer168, February 05, 2009
Sad to see this great nation Malaysia administered by the British Tuans, then handed over to the Malaysian TUANS under Bapa Malaysia Tunku Abdul Rahman Putra & his Malaysian cabinet of TRUE TUANS managing the system of Wesminster style Democracy & with the Rule of Law in 1957, getting "Hijacked & Betrayed" by the "Elite UMNO Ketetuanan BEGGARS" in 1969.
For 40 years, instead if teaching their own kind to "Learn to catch their own FISH", they took the easy way out to maintain their "False" sense of Security & Power by using the "Ketetuanan (BEGGAR)" policy - you vote UMNO, we give you "Fish" & the rot set in to what it is today & the beat goes on....!
For the others, "Either you are with us.....or else....you will be "MIA or Eliminated", period !
UMNO you know who & his Goons must have used pressure on DYMM with the issue of "rightful" Royal "Succession", so they got their wishes this time!
This great nation, its assets & its Anak Bangsa Malaysia have been abused for the last 40 years by these "Moronic Idiots & their Goons" through "Gutter Politics" & the "Law of the Jungle".
Through "Devine" intervention, UMNO, its Leaders & their Lapdogs are now "Destroying" each other with their "Power, Greed & Henious Crimes".
Our prayers to God Almighty seeking "Truth, Justice, Freedom & Equality" will be answered.
Every new day will be another "New Revelation" to reveal the "Truth" in its Self Destruct motion towards its "Demise".
Just give them enough rope to "Hang" themselves at every turn in their "Final" chapter.
May God bless, guide & protect this great nation, its remaining assets & its Anak Bangsa Malaysia forthwith.
written by matsaleh, February 05, 2009
Mass Resignation for the assemblyman is only way to dysfunction the assembly..
written by ktteokt, February 05, 2009
written by amelie.se, February 05, 2009
written by shame, February 05, 2009
The Sultan should set a precedent that each time a state assemblyman switch party, a snap election should be hold to determine if he or she still has the support of the rakyat.
This episode remind of what happened to PBS in Sabah when they won the election, the TYT was reluctant to let them sworn in but after its members defected to BN, the sworn in took place almost immediately. In Sabah we know the TYT is BN crony and it look like the Sultan is also an UMNO crony.
My fear is that there won’t be any election in future if Najib can have his way to deregistered all the opposition parties. It was like in Sabah if you are not BN friendly, you can be assured that your party will not get registered.
The future of Malaysia politic is going to be very dark for many years. We are going to have the most wicked PM in Malaysia history. I really hope the rakyat do not need to shed blood in order to remove the wicked man just like what we have seen in Indonesia and Philippines.
The worst thing is that investors will flee the country and the rakyat will suffer because of this. And I think Malaysia's economy may not recover from the current crisis for a long time.
written by zik, February 05, 2009
Forgot the most powerful authority of all..God the Almighty..yeah..at least we still have God on our side!
But oh yeah..BN folks..will also claimed that God on their side today..because the succeding in coup detat the PR State Goverment!!May Peace Also Be Upon Your My BN Bretheren!!!!
written by Singha, February 05, 2009
written by Hoyohoyo, February 05, 2009
written by future, February 05, 2009
So what has happen here.....the DPM has blackmailed the Sultan.
written by Malaysian, February 05, 2009
written by zik, February 05, 2009
How about Malaysia?????
written by goodma, February 05, 2009
written by Remembered this day .. , February 05, 2009
If you see all the BN crooks lost their deposit , then the rakyat proven the decision is bad one..
Although you make not able to gain back the states , but with this you can prove that what the perakian really want ...
Just my thoughts. .. :)
written by eillom, February 05, 2009
"Under normal circumstances, it is taken for granted that the Yang di-Pertuan Agong would not withhold his consent to a request for dissolution of parliament. His role is purely formal."
" No sultan or agung had withheld consent to dissolve legislative body, except in Kelantan in 1977."
I leave it to the MI readers to decide if the above applies in this case...
written by Paki, February 05, 2009
The same thing is happening in Perak. The Perak constitution clearly says, ' until and unless the MB tenders the resignation of its Exco', any purported swearing in ceremony of a new MB and Exco is illegal and unconstitutional. You have a 'kerajaan haram' ie illegal government. The MB can only be kicked out of office by the people of Perak through their rep, ie the Assemblymen themselves and not by the Sultan. Sultan, where got power? This is not 1411 AD. The Sultan, like the EC had clearly acted in excess of his jurisdiction, being a constitutional monarch.
In Malaysia, we must in principle abide by the rule of law whether you are a King, or a Sultan, or an Umno warlords for that matter. That is in theory, sadly. But in reality, Malaysia is a land of the corrupts. The PM and the Sultan unfortunately sided and rewarded with three corrupt defectors, whose status as an Assyman are being questioned and pending determination by the court.
for goodness sake, follow the constitution and the law lah. The people of Perak is the actual ruler and they should decide which party to lead the government.
written by s.krishnan, February 05, 2009
written by Lek, February 05, 2009
written by Lek, February 05, 2009
written by Rakyat Malaysia, February 05, 2009
BN 28 +3 , the two with corruption is going to the court. If they sentenced, then BN got 29. Later if one of them die in heart attack, then situation row again with BN 28 and PR 28. It is really waste of time and money. This is best time to call snap election. Let the perak rakyat to decide again.
written by yapchongyee, February 05, 2009
From reading all the developments that have passed in the Parliament and the government and the Royal Palace, I can see in stark bold outlines, that what the Sultan has done is so very wrong and invites incredulous laughter. I would like to point out just a few very obvious points. :
(1)the final seat count in Perak Parliament is 28 on each side with three “independents” who indicated that they will vote with the BN.
(2)Bear in mind that all these haggling took place before the Sultan in the Palace,
(3)Between the time when all these manoeuvrings were going on, NONE of the parties on both sides have met in Parliamentary session, THEREFORE THERE WAS AT NO TIME ANY MOVE TO DECLARE NO CONFIDENCE IN THE GOVERNMENT OF THE PAKATAN; and having said that may I ask the Sultan “AT WHAT POINT DID YOU EMPOWER YOURSELF TO DISENFRANCHISE THE PAKATAN GOVERNMENT ?
(4)A constitutional monarchy must rule according to the rule of law; and the monarch can only act with the prescription of the law; and having said that AT WHAT POINT DID THE Sultan of Perak draw his power to SACK THE GOVERNMENT OF THE PAKATAN ? The most OBVIOUS POINT THAT SAYS the Sultan has no power to sack the MB is the fact that Sultan Azlan Shah ‘HAD ASKED MB TO RESIGN”, but MB rightfully replied that he will not resign. Reducing the order by the Sultan to basic analytical terms, the word RESIGN means Sultan ask MB to voluntarily resign. It means that the resignation has to be a voluntary one and the MBSAYS NO !
(5)Following from the discussion from (4)above, Dato Nizar (MB) has put the issue in a deadlock and the Sultan has no power to order the sacking of the MB and the Parliament has not passed any vote of no confidence to remove the MB Nizar.
(6)I TOTALLY SEE THE CORRECTNESS OF MB NIZAR’S CHARGE AGAINST NAJIB THAT BN HAS PERPETRATED A COUP d”TAT, because as I have laid all the circumstances so far, THE INCUMBENCY OF MB NIZAR IS STILL INTACT. Pakatan is still the government of Perak in spit of what has passed so far. What Sultan Azlan Shah in common cause with Najib and the BN has achieved so far is THE REFUSAL OF SULTAN AZLAN SHAH HAS TO DISSOLVE PARLIAMENT, as requested by MB Nizar. NOTHING ELSE HAS BEEN ACHIEVED.
(7)I will sum up my discussion at this point very simply to say that ALL THE CONDITIONS THAT WILL disenfranchise the Pakatan government from further retaining government have not been met; while I do not question the Sultan right to REFUSE DISSOLUTION OF PARLIAMENT, I will politely say to Sultan Azlan Shah that he has no power to dismiss the incumbent MB Nizar.
written by yapchongyee, February 05, 2009
I was wrong to think that Sultan Azlan Shah will be different from all the other Malaysian Judges, but I can see that I am wrong. It is my observation that Malaysian Judges have no idea what the word “judicial discretion means or what Royal discretion means.” When we use the word discretion in our professional capacity, and here the Sultan is deemed to use the word in that context, then when one exercises one’s professional discretion, it means we need to achieve the best outcome in a professional manner for the issue before us. This means that we need to take into account all the factors that bear on the issue.
From reading all the developments that have passed in the Parliament and the government and the Royal Palace, I can see in stark bold outlines, that what the Sultan has done is so very wrong and invites incredulous laughter. I would like to point out just a few very obvious points. :
(1)the final seat count in Perak Parliament is 28 on each side with three “independents” who indicated that they will vote with the BN.
(2)Bear in mind that all these haggling took place before the Sultan in the Palace,
(3)Between the time when all these manoeuvrings were going on, NONE of the parties on both sides have met in Parliamentary session, THEREFORE THERE WAS AT NO TIME ANY MOVE TO DECLARE NO CONFIDENCE IN THE GOVERNMENT OF THE PAKATAN; and having said that may I ask the Sultan “AT WHAT POINT DID YOU EMPOWER YOURSELF TO DISENFRANCHISE THE PAKATAN GOVERNMENT ?
(4)A constitutional monarchy must rule according to the rule of law; and the monarch can only act with the prescription of the law; and having said that AT WHAT POINT DID THE Sultan of Perak draw his power to SACK THE GOVERNMENT OF THE PAKATAN ? The most OBVIOUS POINT THAT SAYS the Sultan has no power to sack the MB is the fact that Sultan Azlan Shah ‘HAD ASKED MB TO RESIGN”, but MB rightfully replied that he will not resign. Reducing the order by the Sultan to basic analytical terms, the word RESIGN means Sultan ask MB to voluntarily resign. It means that the resignation has to be a voluntary one and the MBSAYS NO !
(5)Following from the discussion from (4)above, Dato Nizar (MB) has put the issue in a deadlock and the Sultan has no power to order the sacking of the MB and the Parliament has not passed any vote of no confidence to remove the MB Nizar.
(6)I TOTALLY SEE THE CORRECTNESS OF MB NIZAR’S CHARGE AGAINST NAJIB THAT BN HAS PERPETRATED A COUP d”TAT, because as I have laid all the circumstances so far, THE INCUMBENCY OF MB NIZAR IS STILL INTACT. Pakatan is still the government of Perak in spit of what has passed so far. What Sultan Azlan Shah in common cause with Najib and the BN has achieved so far is THE REFUSAL OF SULTAN AZLAN SHAH HAS TO DISSOLVE PARLIAMENT, as requested by MB Nizar. NOTHING ELSE HAS BEEN ACHIEVED.
(7)I will sum up my discussion at this point very simply to say that ALL THE CONDITIONS THAT WILL disenfranchise the Pakatan government from further retaining government have not been met; while I do not question the Sultan right to REFUSE DISSOLUTION OF PARLIAMENT, I will politely say to Sultan Azlan Shah that he has no power to dismiss the incumbent MB Nizar.
(1)I want to express my endorsement of the opinions of that Prof. of Law from some local Islamic University, whose views formed the foundation of this article.
(2)Tomorrow by all accounts the BN will be sworn in AND THERE WILL BE TWO GOVERNMENTS OF PERAK; how will that be solved. T think I can rightfully reduce the problem created so far because THE SULTAN HAS TAKEN UPON TO INTERPRET THE WORD DISCRETION UNSUPPORTED BY LEGAL PRINCIPLES OR PRECEDENTS.
written by Truely Malaysian, February 06, 2009
I agree , the PR representative should resign all together and let the rakyat make decision again. At least, by making BN candidates loosing their deposit, by gods grace, it may open the eye of ...............
written by makkal tilagam, February 06, 2009
written by The Fortune Teller, February 06, 2009
written by Billy, February 06, 2009
Why he did not agree to opt for fresh mandate is something I don't understand. If he had done that, not only is it seen to be impartial but doing the right thing by giving the power back to the rakyat to re-elect their representatives. Had this been done, we all can sleep easily tonight.
Therefore in a summary the new Administration are not the people's choice but that of the Sultan.
written by sad rakyat, February 06, 2009
written by kambing, February 06, 2009
Well, morally speaking it is wrong to jump ship. Legally speaking, there's nothing wrong to it. UMNO had 2 similar cases in the past in which the judgment was turned against them.
If Pakatan wants to fight back, just go to the court. The Perak DUN Speaker has already filed a suit against the 3 Independent. So, wait for the outcome and let the process of law take place.
Till then, let's just move on with our business.
written by simon li, February 06, 2009
written by Fadzli Hashim, February 06, 2009
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written by Habibie, February 06, 2009
Today the 3 independent clowns throwing their support to BN, and your majesty ordered for new govt to be formed...
Tmrw the same clowns, independent clowns, come out and say, we support PR but remain as independents, what would you do? Order for a new govt to be formed again? This will go on and on, Tuanku.. Your majesty should have a called for fresh election and see who the rakyat want once and for all.. this is a shame to the whole country..
written by Hamdan, February 06, 2009
Najib and his band of sinners with multiple lightning bolts.
written by candidman, February 06, 2009
The Royalty is only human, those sweet words in the days past were merely to entice the ignorant citizenry into believing that we have a demigod but all the demonic! It's purely a sickening froggy orchestra, all are the same family!
"Cakap tak serupa pikin" !
written by tanaka, February 06, 2009
tuanku could be a former lord president, but that counts for nothing in the face of aging and senility, which are natural biological processes. everybody gets old and frail, and it is natural, but that should not blurr decisions that may affect millions.
daulat tuanku.
the rakyat loves tuanku but with wrong advisors come judgements that are less than perfect.
written by telanbara, February 06, 2009
written by may GOD shows what was wrong, February 06, 2009
written by vp, February 06, 2009
From this case, it's seems like our coming PM is telling us "As long you can ahchieve the result you want, don't bother the procedure." That is why Zakaria built his palace without approval from government, BN used government resources for KT election, Home minister detention of RPK, Terassa & Tan under ISA without proper investigation & evidence, etc (too many).
Truely, I myself is very upset on what occur in Perak. I feel that our nation leader are very low standard, they abuse the law, abuse the democracy system. The 3 state assemblymans have betrayed the people of Perak. Whatever is the result, pls do have confident in the democracy system, it's the only way out. There will be 1 day we will tell Perak SUltan & coming PM what we want........
written by patik yg hina, February 07, 2009
So, adakah perkara nie kat berulang di perak pulak??? kita tunggu dan lihat … sebab kalu ikutkan undang tubuh negeri perak sepatutnya raja muda adalah raja di hilir sekrg iaitu raja jaafar ibni raja muda musa dan bukannya raja nazrin. kira raja nazrin lompat giliran/que disebabkan ayahnya sultan. So mereka perlukan bn yg majoritinya adun umno sbg kerajaan negeri utk pertahankan kedudukan nazrin sbg raja muda seterusnya sehingga menjadi sultan kalu2 sultan azlan mangkat kelak. Mana nak tau mungkin esok lusa kot ….. sbb sekrg pun tgk sultan azlan tak kuat lg mcm dulu kdg2 tak sihat aje memanjang. Mesyuarat raja2 pun hantar anaknye sbg wakil baginda aje … sama mcm sultan johor …
so fikir2kan lah ….




