By Adib Zalkapli
KUALA LUMPUR, June 11 — In another blow to the PAS leadership's insistence on resuming talks with Umno, the party's spiritual leader said engaging the Malay nationalist party should never be part of party's agenda.
In an interview with the party newsletter Harakah, published today, Datuk Nik Abdul Aziz Nik Mat reiterated his stand against any form of political co-operation with Umno.
“Islam has always encouraged discussion. To place it as part of party's agenda creates the impression that Islam does not provide room for discussion,” said the PAS spiritual adviser.
During the recently-concluded muktamar, president Datuk Seri Abdul Hadi Awang and his deputy Nasharudin Mat Isa declared their commitment to strengthening Pakatan Rakyat (PR) but vowed to continue discussion with Umno, in a sign that both leaders have yet to abandon plans to form a unity government with the ruling party.
“Islam has always allowed those who are against it to talk and discuss. It has always been there, so there is no need to make it part of our agenda. When we make it part of our agenda, it creates redundancy,” Nik Aziz added.
He also praised Shah Alam MP Khalid Samad, who is another strong critic of unity talks with Umno, for demonstrating his knowledge in Islamic history during the muktamar.
Nik Aziz said Khalid, an engineer by training, had shown there is no clear division between the religious scholars or ulama and the professionals in the party.
“Although I have never seen him in skullcap, turban or robe, but throughout his speech he used arguments commonly used by the ulama,” he added.
In the fiery speech, Khalid also criticised the muktamar secretariat for accepting sponsorship from Umno-linked corporation Puncak Niaga.
The Kelantan Mentri Besar also expressed his shock with the defeat of the state leaders in the party election.
“I am not only disappointed, but also saddened. I don't know what was the reason. We will study the matter and let the next muktamar decide,” he added.
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written by zackeye, June 11, 2009
written by zackeye, June 11, 2009
100% agreed. If UMNO feel that they are weak now then they should disband and join PAS and fight for the Islamic and just cause. UMNO should not try to lure others with all sorts of promises. Politics is dynamic and UMNO should change if they still want to be relevant. Similarly PAS also must change and be friendly with non Muslims who are also citizens of this country. As shown by the support to the PAS for all movement, the party should keep the momentum going by engaging with more non Muslims and explain the true and just Islam which is a blessing for the whole mankind.
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written by Bluehyppo, June 11, 2009
written by Bluehyppo, June 11, 2009
To all PAS member, please heed the advise by Tok Guru. He might be old, but he is much-much wiser than the president and his deputy.
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written by katrina paris, June 11, 2009
written by katrina paris, June 11, 2009
UMNO dah dapat beli Hadi dan dia deputy
Habis lah Pas
Jadi menang lah UMNO
Jadi hamba balik orang Melayu
sallam
Habis lah Pas
Jadi menang lah UMNO
Jadi hamba balik orang Melayu
sallam
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written by Trigem, June 11, 2009
written by Trigem, June 11, 2009
[Datuk Seri Abdul Hadi Awang and his deputy Nasharudin Mat Isa declared their commitment to strengthening Pakatan Rakyat (PR) but vowed to continue discussion with Umno]
This is akin to a husband wants to have an illicit sex with the neighbor but declares he still loves his wife. I really wonder how this is going to work out.
This is akin to a husband wants to have an illicit sex with the neighbor but declares he still loves his wife. I really wonder how this is going to work out.
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written by prachai, June 11, 2009
written by prachai, June 11, 2009
Wearing skullcaps and long robes will not protect one against world temptations, but a strong conviction and adherence to fundamental values as advocated by all major faiths will. Be careful of those who are agents of UMNO, disguising themselves under fashion but will surely expose their dark sides behind closed doors.
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written by Hang Tuah 1, June 11, 2009
Talking is always the best first approach in any conflict or disagreement.
No need to put that as party agenda.
And no need to do it is secrets.
When talking, always include all parties.
PKR or DAP should be invited to the table.
Lay open all the cards.
If Pas talks to Umno and it is done in private closet.
Then is not healthy - why hide from your coalition partners?
Unless you have intention to betray your partners, then the talking is not good.
When you talk to Umno, Umno can talk to the media what transpires.
Then the people will do a lot of guesswork...
As loose coalition in PR, there should be commitment to work together.
And that commitment is defined as confidence.
If your wife is always talking to a man, and worse still - it is always in secret in the bedroom.
If you question your wife, and if she says she is the freedom to talk to anyone anyhow...
I think you cannot accept it. If she wants to talk to a man, it should be open and it will be good if you as husband in also in the discussion.
Unless, your wife is thinking of divorcing you. Ahhh, that is a different story.
If Pas is talking to Umno in secret, that is okay if Pas is thinking of 'divorcing' from PR. And if this is the case, better announce that intention now. Don't stab your coalition partiner in the back. Betrayal is an offence.
BTW, Tok Guru with due respect - your popularity is waning in Pas.
You don't have the influence as Tok Guru like before.
That is why Pas delegates don't pay attention to your views.
That is why they voted your team out of leadership.
Nasharudin said this to a reporter when asked his view on what you said with regards to unity talks (you opposed it), Nasa said: Nik Aziz is not Pas.
As for the public, Pas without Nik Aziz is rejected.
This is the crisis of confidence.
written by Hang Tuah 1, June 11, 2009
Talking is always the best first approach in any conflict or disagreement.
No need to put that as party agenda.
And no need to do it is secrets.
When talking, always include all parties.
PKR or DAP should be invited to the table.
Lay open all the cards.
If Pas talks to Umno and it is done in private closet.
Then is not healthy - why hide from your coalition partners?
Unless you have intention to betray your partners, then the talking is not good.
When you talk to Umno, Umno can talk to the media what transpires.
Then the people will do a lot of guesswork...
As loose coalition in PR, there should be commitment to work together.
And that commitment is defined as confidence.
If your wife is always talking to a man, and worse still - it is always in secret in the bedroom.
If you question your wife, and if she says she is the freedom to talk to anyone anyhow...
I think you cannot accept it. If she wants to talk to a man, it should be open and it will be good if you as husband in also in the discussion.
Unless, your wife is thinking of divorcing you. Ahhh, that is a different story.
If Pas is talking to Umno in secret, that is okay if Pas is thinking of 'divorcing' from PR. And if this is the case, better announce that intention now. Don't stab your coalition partiner in the back. Betrayal is an offence.
BTW, Tok Guru with due respect - your popularity is waning in Pas.
You don't have the influence as Tok Guru like before.
That is why Pas delegates don't pay attention to your views.
That is why they voted your team out of leadership.
Nasharudin said this to a reporter when asked his view on what you said with regards to unity talks (you opposed it), Nasa said: Nik Aziz is not Pas.
As for the public, Pas without Nik Aziz is rejected.
This is the crisis of confidence.
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written by Jason, June 11, 2009
written by Jason, June 11, 2009
You tend to wonder whether Hadi and Nasharudin are Umno spies who infiltrated Pas. Their behavior and arguments shows twisted logic. This is what Umno is famous for.
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written by YNWA, June 11, 2009
written by YNWA, June 11, 2009
ToK Guru,
You're very right!
TAKBIR..........TAKBIR...........TAKBIR
You're very right!
TAKBIR..........TAKBIR...........TAKBIR
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written by nani, June 11, 2009
written by nani, June 11, 2009
sy sokong 100% pendapat tok guru.title 'ulamak' tidak semestinya lulusan dlm pengajian Islam,ttp sekiranya seseorang itu misalnya lulusan dari barat tetapi dia mempunyai fikrah perjuangan Islam yg jelas,amalan dan akhlaq yg terpuji yakni memenuhi ciri2 seorang ulamak..maka dia boleh digelar ulamak.tetapi jika sekiranya seseorang itu lulusan dari AL Azhar misalnya,tetapi amalan dan fikrahnya yg diragui spt bersekongkol dgn puak sekular yg terang2 memusuhi Islam...maka dia tidak layak samasekali diobri gelaran ulamak...
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written by Me 2, June 11, 2009
written by Me 2, June 11, 2009
YES!, Tok Guru, you are always right. Having all your long experience, you know very well how those big buaya character behave. If those defectors are capable enough, they will never even want to look an eyes at Encik Hadi, in fact they will criticize many unpleasant things against PAS. Encik Hadi, should learn more how to patience and should wait till the next GE13 if he want to represent for the next head of our government. Today the people asking for a change. It means never ever try to perish the Pakatan's heart or else how can we going to drain out all those corrupted leaders and those cronies.
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written by Joe Ang, June 11, 2009
written by Joe Ang, June 11, 2009
Well, it was all too clear about the agenda of the top 2. Don't we all like the smell of newly printed ringgit notes even though they don't quite smell like durian.
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written by lucia, June 11, 2009
written by lucia, June 11, 2009
the wise tok guru speaks again and is as usual right.
true what he said of khalid samad. one don't have to wear skullcap, turban or robe to look/sound so holy and religious and pious. a man like khalid... as long as one is honest and god-fearing, who can dress in western suit (i think he did once) will be much better than all those in skullcap robed members.
true what he said of khalid samad. one don't have to wear skullcap, turban or robe to look/sound so holy and religious and pious. a man like khalid... as long as one is honest and god-fearing, who can dress in western suit (i think he did once) will be much better than all those in skullcap robed members.
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written by Zaman, June 11, 2009
written by Zaman, June 11, 2009
Tuan Guru Nik Aziz, a very focussed Islamic leader. His message was always consistent and very clear. I admire him.
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written by nawawimohamad, June 11, 2009
written by nawawimohamad, June 11, 2009
The initial talk with UMNO was done in secrecy. Therefore there was an intention to hide the issue, thus it has to be some hidden agenda. Those people involved have not been transparent and may even have been spinning the story so as to influence the delegates and won their votes.
If PAS is really serious about its ideals, then they should not compromise with UMNO. PAS must win the hearts of the Malays which it has failed to do for the past 50 years. If the Maly votes can shift to PAS, then it can be a really strong and dominant party instead of UMNO. PAS must ask the question and find answers why the Malays are shying them.
PAS should not try the short-cut way through the side door which eventually will be kicked out through the back door!
If PAS is really serious about its ideals, then they should not compromise with UMNO. PAS must win the hearts of the Malays which it has failed to do for the past 50 years. If the Maly votes can shift to PAS, then it can be a really strong and dominant party instead of UMNO. PAS must ask the question and find answers why the Malays are shying them.
PAS should not try the short-cut way through the side door which eventually will be kicked out through the back door!
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written by psiwar, June 11, 2009
written by psiwar, June 11, 2009
Hidup Tok Guru!! Takbir..kami walla' 100% pada mursyidul Am...
Tok Guru juga kena nasihat pimpinan PAS jangan banyak sangat dok ceramah politik hingga pening nak nilai kesan apa yang diceramahkan ..suruh semua ajk PAS dok diam2 dan buat persediaan teknikal untuk ambil alih kerajaan.. kaji semua polisi kerajaan sekarang, per elok@tambah nilai, atau gubal kalau perlu mengikut lunas2 islam..masa cuma tinggal 1-3 tahun lagi..bila dah banyak kerja nak buat baru lah tak sibuk nak ceramah politik je... "Demi masa sesungguhnya manusia berada dalam kerugian...
Tok Guru juga kena nasihat pimpinan PAS jangan banyak sangat dok ceramah politik hingga pening nak nilai kesan apa yang diceramahkan ..suruh semua ajk PAS dok diam2 dan buat persediaan teknikal untuk ambil alih kerajaan.. kaji semua polisi kerajaan sekarang, per elok@tambah nilai, atau gubal kalau perlu mengikut lunas2 islam..masa cuma tinggal 1-3 tahun lagi..bila dah banyak kerja nak buat baru lah tak sibuk nak ceramah politik je... "Demi masa sesungguhnya manusia berada dalam kerugian...
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written by AcHoo!, June 11, 2009
written by AcHoo!, June 11, 2009
You could view Pas as a treacherous party but for principled leaders like Datok Nik Aziz. I mean how can anyone even think of discussing unity or anything with UMNO?
Haven't they proved to be devious and cunning in previous coorperation? Are not their rampant corruption and arrogance despised by the rakyat and drove them to support Pakatan?
What could Datuk Sri Hadi been thinking if not being misled by his own narrow and shallow thinking?
Haven't they proved to be devious and cunning in previous coorperation? Are not their rampant corruption and arrogance despised by the rakyat and drove them to support Pakatan?
What could Datuk Sri Hadi been thinking if not being misled by his own narrow and shallow thinking?
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written by richardkam, June 11, 2009
written by richardkam, June 11, 2009
Tok Guru, maybe some of your leaders are envious of the UMNOputras driving big continental cars and living in big bungalows. By joining the so called unity government, they assume that they will be accorded the same privileges.
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written by xaviers, June 11, 2009
written by xaviers, June 11, 2009
I think there are some UMNO members planted in PAS, to instigate the issue. Can be it keeps popping up
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written by toh leong, June 11, 2009
written by toh leong, June 11, 2009
We are hoping BN and Pakatan would be the two main political parties to serve all Malaysians. This would ensure politicians to be people serving rather than self-serving. The recent behind the back type of manoeuvre by PAS appears to be unprincipled, disloyal and digesting. A party with leaders of of such a character could easily become "frogs" in the event of a Pakatan victory in the future.
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written by mukmin, June 11, 2009
written by mukmin, June 11, 2009
it is one of the seven wonders of the world of islamic politics that certain people in pas would view pious and god-fearing khalid samad as not good enough to be in the leadership while they actively pursue unity talks and cooperation with an enemy of questionable character and morals like najib. has certain leaders in pas become mere politicians, quite unable to resist the temptation of power?
i pray for tokguru's continued good health and wisdom.
i pray for tokguru's continued good health and wisdom.
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written by Wiseman, June 11, 2009
Wiseman talk sense , wiseman talk LOGIC but above all wiseman stay on with principle, these are values Idiot & Childish Hadi cannot match Tok Guru.
Famous Statement :-
" The ultimate measures of a Man is not where he stands in the moments of Comfort and Convenience but when he stands at the times of challenge & Controversy. "
written by Wiseman, June 11, 2009
Wiseman talk sense , wiseman talk LOGIC but above all wiseman stay on with principle, these are values Idiot & Childish Hadi cannot match Tok Guru.
Famous Statement :-
" The ultimate measures of a Man is not where he stands in the moments of Comfort and Convenience but when he stands at the times of challenge & Controversy. "
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written by The Sun , the Moon and the Truth, June 11, 2009
PAS should call for a EGM immediately to kick these UMNOPuppet out from PAS indefinately and
"Vote of No Confidence for Hadi"
He is creating a lot of illusions for PAS Supporters and Followers.
He is Creating unneccessary confusion for Pakatan.
He is a lousy leader compare to Junior leaders such as Nizar , Salehuddin and many more.
A Leader cannot simply Open his mouth as
Chinese saying >>>
" 4 Horses are not able to chase words come out from one's mouth."
written by The Sun , the Moon and the Truth, June 11, 2009
PAS should call for a EGM immediately to kick these UMNOPuppet out from PAS indefinately and
"Vote of No Confidence for Hadi"
He is creating a lot of illusions for PAS Supporters and Followers.
He is Creating unneccessary confusion for Pakatan.
He is a lousy leader compare to Junior leaders such as Nizar , Salehuddin and many more.
A Leader cannot simply Open his mouth as
Chinese saying >>>
" 4 Horses are not able to chase words come out from one's mouth."
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written by abusyukri yusof, June 11, 2009
written by abusyukri yusof, June 11, 2009
what`s so islamic about unity with assobiah?
maintaining 30% quota and
banning your own sister ?
name change?
`PAS for ALL`
maintaining 30% quota and
banning your own sister ?
name change?
`PAS for ALL`
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written by lkh, June 11, 2009
written by lkh, June 11, 2009
This man by the name of Nasharudin whose identity is carried suspicious. He could be the poisonous seed planted inside PAS by UMNO in order to destitute PR's political strength.
Prompt action of investigation if his identification should be conducted immediately before it was too late.
Prompt action of investigation if his identification should be conducted immediately before it was too late.
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written by LH Lee, June 11, 2009
written by LH Lee, June 11, 2009
I've always admired Tok Guru for his outspokenness although I might not agree with him. But this time around, I agree with him 100%, especially on the superficial dressing issue. We need progressive, professional people like Khalid Samad in order to move the country forward, not going BACKWARDS by setting up a so-called 'unity' government with UMNO.
I honestly believe that with more people like Mohd Nizar and Khalid Samad, PAS will have better chances of pulling Malay votes away from UMNO. And (if PAS is still in Pakatan) this is good news for Pakatan Rakyat, for all the Malays who have been suffering under UMNO, for the sidelined-for-many-years Chinese and Indians, for the silently suffering Bumis in Sabah & Sarawak...
Hidup Tok Guru!
I honestly believe that with more people like Mohd Nizar and Khalid Samad, PAS will have better chances of pulling Malay votes away from UMNO. And (if PAS is still in Pakatan) this is good news for Pakatan Rakyat, for all the Malays who have been suffering under UMNO, for the sidelined-for-many-years Chinese and Indians, for the silently suffering Bumis in Sabah & Sarawak...
Hidup Tok Guru!
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written by anthony, June 12, 2009
written by anthony, June 12, 2009
Dearest Tok Guru Nik Aziz , the more you talk , the greater respect I have for you. You are really an old wise man. We need leaders like you to lead us. We already have Khalid Ibrahim , Anwar Ibrahim , Mohd Nizar , Tengku Razaleigh Hamzah , Lim Kit Siang , Lim Guan Eng , Karpal Singh , Wan Azizah and Sivakumar who care for the RAKYAT more than anything else. A big THANK YOU to all of you. May GOD bless all of you and your families. Nearly forgot about you.... Zaid Ibrahim , Husam and the only one I can think of from UMNO, Shahrir Samad. You are the true WARRIORS.
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