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Kerisputing, still talk like sore loser.

Wonder where were you before?

Doing nothig to our country education system, just making lots of fun and pain to our kids like white rats.

No wonder our education system is in real shit.

no hope lah ...

NOT EASY DECISION!!!????

How about if you have children who are affected?

And who's that dumb guy (on TV) who said why wait three years to switch? Is he on drugs?

Losing faith in the education system is an understatement. Every step taken is going backwards.

God save us all.

Hitting the nail on the head................Yes
Minister!! There is no way to learn english indirectly. Some of the policies promoted by TDM are certainly not right. . . at this rate it will take the students another 100years to learn english. and by then the world might be talking a new language.

Now that the decision has been taken, can our Dear Minister revisit some other long standing issues.

1. Health Hazard School Bags - Do something to reduce the daily book load. But please dont just do the Photo Op thingie at some school where they'll spend thousands for your visit (and child labour to clean up the compund) - just as they did to a Bibir Merah Education Minister many years ago at mychilds school. No action after that, but he got promoted, and my youngest child is suffering just as her eldest brother did.

2. Teacher absentiism. Teachers attendance at class, which is not the same as teachers attendance at school. If teachers attended and taught in classes, instead of hanging out in staff rooms and canteens and attending the infamous kursus, maybe the standard of Maths and Science ( and every other subject) would be much higher. If we are honest about it, we will admit that our biggest problem is the quality and dedication of our teachers, and not the medium of instruction.

3. Religion in the school. Keep religious activities and rituals to the minimum and only during religious classes. Not only is it taking up valuable time allocated for academic lessons, it is definitely working against a 1Malaysia mindset.

4. Teacher employment - employ teachers from all communities, and you will get a resurgence of the government school.

These are simple observations which I think, every parent with school going kids has made and will agree with me on. What will it take our Pedagogists and policy makers to bring about the change that is so obviously needed?

Now that the decision has been taken, can our dear Minister revisit and react to some other long standing issues for which he need not brief our defacto Numero Uno.

1. Health Hazard School Bags - Do something to reduce the daily book load. But please dont just do the Photo Op thingie at some school where they'll spend thousands for your visit (and child labour to clean up the compund) - just as they did to a Bibir Merah Education Minister many years ago at mychilds school. No action after that, but he got promoted, and my youngest child is suffering just as her eldest brother did.

2. Teacher absentiism - How often do our teachers absent themselves from the classroom? Its a lot! If teachers attended and taught in classes, instead of hanging out in staff rooms and canteens and attending the infamous kursus, maybe the standard of Maths and Science ( and every other subject) would be much higher. If we are honest about it, we will admit that our biggest problem is the quality and dedication of our teachers, and not the medium of instruction.

3. Religion in the school. Keep religious activities and rituals to the minimum and only during religious classes. Not only is it taking up valuable time allocated for academic lessons, it is definitely working against a 1Malaysia mindset.

4. Teacher employment - employ teachers from all communities, and you will get a resurgence of the Sekolah Kebangsaan.

These are simple observations which I think, every parent with school going kids has made and will agree with me on. What will it take our Pedagogists and policy makers to bring about the change that is so obviously needed?

Just admit it, Krishammudin you cocked up!
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Krishammudin, don't do this Monday morning quarterback thingy la, just admit it, you had the chance to do the right thing but you flopped it.

Anyway, you had taken charge of several ministrial offices, you had accomplished nothing. No kidding, a clean sheet.

A clean sheet for a goal keeper is good, a clean sheet for a striker meaning this striker is about to be hanged out to dry.

Battle-crying and wielding weapon in general assembly is so archaic, you need to get on and do some real business. But that will be too demanding on you, won't it?

The trend now is:

If you could speak English, Chinese or Tamil, you can go or find a living anywhere in the world!!!

Good luck to you, my dear Malay friends

Husband talking to friends: 'Hi frens, the only solution for our children futures is to study math & sci in BM'
Husband talking to his children: 'If u want to be the wise to rule the stupid, the only choice for your education is to study in international school, do u get it?!, Dont worry, i will help u change the policy.'

It is sad that the govt. of the day in M'sia never misses to destroy the future of the next generation. If English and teaching Math and Sci. in English are bad policies, why are the ministers sending their children to international schools. TDM realized that his policies of using Bahasa Malaysia for these subject led a generation to loose their competitive edge hence he reversed the policy in 2003. Now because of politics, the poor and the average income will have their children revert back to the stone age. The truth is that Bahasa M'sia did not unit the nation. The nation is more polarized today due to poor political (social and economic) policies based on racial lines versus merit and accountability.

Hisham ,

Not a difficult decions to make but because you lack of knowledge so simply cannot make "RIGHT" decision due to many of your short-coming, you are only good at warning peoples here and there when peoples speak the truth which you awlays feel hurt due to your 'Inferior Complex" pretend to protect the Malays but actually you are destroying Malay future. If not why you sent your childrens to Australia if you think your descision is correct ???

Most of UMNO decision is politically-motivated not for Rakyat future.

Liar! Liar! Pants on Fire!

Those who want to be monolingual for whatever reasons please dont deny those who want to be multilingual.

Open up opportunities for English medium schools to be established in the private sector and see parents of all races fighting to have their children enrolled in such schools as just in the better run and managed vernacular schools. Then we see whether the majority wants their children to be monolingual.

Please do not be shocked that all many English teahers will resign and go into private tuition teaching English. The demand for such services would even be greater than ever.

sk- stop your racist view - its not speaking chinese its mandarin, and tamil is not the biggest language in India - you need to be proficient in Hindi, whilst Tamil is only spoken in 1 of the 4 southern states. Malay may not have a large impact - but it has its importance not only in Malaysia. With SDY ensuring Indonesia continues to be stable, it could potentially be the next opportunity, so learning Malay is not going to make you lose out. Even Mandarin proficiency don't bring you out and about other than a few countries - who themselves are trying to master other language like English, Spanish, French, etc.

The point is don't belittle other language!

Some may argue that teaching Science & Maths in english is not the correct way to improve english. Yes, no & maybe. Lets put it this way, its about exposure to the language & making you more at ease with it. Of course it is going to be painful at the start & coping is going to be difficult but it was a nudge to the right direction. For the SRJK type school, its a matter of stretching both the teachers & students to cope with adopting english for the two subjects & at the same time not alienating the mothers' tongue learning. We all know learning does not stop at school & parents have to play a part in ensuring the mastery of the 2+1 languages i.e. English & Bahasa Malaysia + mothers' tongue language. We are just kidding ourselves to state that by having more subjects taught in English is not going to improve our command of the language as the decline in English started when we switch completely to teaching in BM in the 70s. Just take a simple test, just google, yahoo or wiki some science or maths questions in both English & Maths & let the result justify this point! I do not agree with Tun DrM on many things but on this, I truly support his vision. Frankly, what sk had commented is very real my dear Malay friend! I am thinking of streching my kids to pick up another language apart from English, Bahasa Malaysia & our mothers' tongue & you are still flip flopping with English. What a pity!

Instead of pulling up standards of students..u pull down the bar..that's why Malaysia is forever going backwards...not forwards...

Yes Malays are the looser.
But why are most ministers sending their sons & daughters to studies in UK, Australia & USA.?....pls ask them why?

FLIP FLOP policy, Untenanble arguments. Children as guinea pig. It will results in children less competitive and less knowledge enrichment and empowerment as science & mathemathics in secondary school (FORM ONE (1) OR FORM FOUR (4) is not taught in ENGLISH which is an intenrnational language . I can still accept if only PRIMARY SCHOOL are affected.
WAy to go to our current government

Its all part of UMNO/MCA's grand masterplan to divide, rule and lord over commoner rakyat Malaysia!

Corrupted UMNO and MCA are grooming their kids with elite English education to be future "Tuan" to lord over 2nd-class educated ordinary rakyat!

Just my 2 sen worth of hypothesis.

Pakatan Rakyat should use this to win the next general election. Assure the rakyat that they will revert maths and science back to english and improve english proficiency in school and they will win the GE hands down. The rakyat will love you.!

Who is the real loser here ? Those who can afford it will send their kids for English tuition and then overseas so when they come back,if they come back ,can get plum jobs in the private sector where English is a must. At the end ,the rakyat will be the loser and will have to be forever dependent on the govt for handouts. this is what the govt wants, a subservient rakyat who cannot read or understand English. We will be globally uncompetitive and this is at time when borders are coming down and when labor is highly mobile. Other 3rd world countries are pushing for English and we are pushing English out.
Excellent decision by the govt once again.

The failure of the PPSMI is not due to urban or rural children not able to master english, but the problem lies on the inadequate train and incompetent teachers.

Without proper train teachers to teach the 2 subject what can we expect out from our children, those parents who can afford to send their children to attend tuition can perform well.

Vanucalur school fail to support PPSMI at primary is due to their priority during these 6 years is on their mother language. But this group is for science and maths in English at the secondary school. All must understand that chinese and english is not an easy language to master compare with bahasa malaysia.

With SRJK having 6 years of study maths and science in english, this group will have 6 years ahead of other school in english, maybe one day the rayat will realised SRJK is a better alternative compare to that of vanucalur school by then the government dream of having one stream in our education system will be achieved.

Hishammuddin, who is now the Home Minister, said the decision, however, was supported by the majority who saw it as most appropriate based on studies which saw less than encouraging examination results among students.
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Oh ohhhh, I think you said something wrong here -

In the last six years since implementing English for Science and Maths -
every year when results for UPSR, PMR, SPM and SPTM -
You have announced that the students have done very well.

Every year results were improving -
More top students.
More students have done better in Science and Maths -

Now the turn around -
Studies were done - what studies????

Publish the studies - put it in black and white.

BTW, Hishammuddin - where your children go to school???

Public school,
Private school,
International school????

Way to go UMNO. You have now condemned millions of Malay youth to continue working at McDonalds, as Pizza delivery boys, at 7 Elevens and as waiters at 5 Star restaurants. With their poor standard of English no one else will employ them. But atleast because of this policy, fast food in Malaysia is among the cheapest in the world. God. What selfish politicians we have.

The very fundamental base of a nation it her education system. In this case, our government fails us by not allowing our younger one to move ahead. The government is murdering our future. Excuses like students can't cope and lack of English proficient teachers are all results of the past failure. Success is through hard work. After 6 six years of implementation, now all wasted

wow. the perfect person to talk. he is educated abroad. what does he know about malaysian education? doesn't affect him personally as he will just send his kids abroad as well. funny in malaysia we have people who is not part of the system making decisions for us ordinary people. =)

Well, Look how stupid our BN doing just to please the so call useless people but this people send thier children to oversea for better education. What are they talk about. Who are they to talk the walk. I am a chinese I think the so call Dong something assocation can go fly kite. Really spoilt our children future. How to work if you can speak or write in English. Do you Internatinal company would employ Chinese , Tamil or Malay who can only speak thier langauge. Think of the future not go backwards.

If the idiotic BN government think and plan carefully (plus listening to Rakyat and collected enough input via referendum/discussions) it would not end up like today's embarrassed situation!!

How long more can we endure such arrogant, brainless and pompous, super corrupted central government????????????Wake up pleaseeee, Malaysians!! kick out BN for the benefit of our next generation!

Yaaa lah tu... Hari ini khawin esok mahu anak.... itulah polisi pendidikan di Malaysia.

Thanks to late Sudirman ..... Balik kampung ohh...ohhh oohhh. balik kampung.......

Muhyidin lebih berani mengaku masalah PPMSI ini dan membuat keputusan yang sewajarnya. Hishamudin semasa menjadi Menteri selalu mengelak dari cuba memberi keputusan. Dasar penakut!!

The rationale behind the rovocation of the policy is paltry and nonsensical! It speaks of how the government was ill-prepared to implement this policy from the very beginning. And now the lame excuse given was that only a small percentage of our teachers can converse fluently in English and that rural students are finding it tough to catch up in Math and Science when they are taught in English! Plain baloney!

So now we are admitting that even the teachers, those so-called 'gurus' can't even master one of the most important language of the world? What a joke! What is best is, because our rural students cannot catch up with the language, every student in Malaysia must now be tied to this sandbag and be dragged down together with them. Instead of encouraging the rural students to improve, we are now asking the urban students to retrogress and be at the same standard as rural students. How preposterous!

National schools should be in Bahasa, the National Language and every malaysians should understand this. However, we can always have one Optional Choice subject in English, Chinese or Tamil or Advance Malay. And nothing stops an individual from sending his kids to have additional tuition in Guitar or Belly Dancing at their own time. With one common language throughout malaysia, we can, irrespective of race and dialects go everywhere within our own country. I am sure if you travel from Sabah to Penang, you will find every body speaks different and so hard to communicate, but one language stands out - everybody should and must speak Bahasa !!

Hisham sent his children to International school to study. Why? Because he wanted his children to study in English. And yet he advised rakyat to accept the cabinet's decision. So with Najib. They are all alike. Take the best and give rakyat the worst. Why did cabinet accepted the switch. It's because they all send their children to private schools to study in English. It's the ordinary folks that cannot afford to send their children to private schools. So they have to be in national schools and be at a disadvantage!

What you know lah and what have you done which make us Rakyat memerise you.

I have only one thing to say. My heart bleeds for the younger generation whose eduaction and life has become a political tool. How can Hishamuddin say the decision is supported by the majority when the opll ran by Dr. mahathir alone shows an overwheklming majority of 89,000 + against a totalumber of 109,000+ respondents who are aagianst that decision. On top of that the research that formed the basis for this decision has been questioned by well known and internationally acclaimed Malaysian academics like Dr. Azly Rahman. Is Hishammuddin telling us all that they are a figment of our imagination or do we pay him his salary to insult our intelligence? I guess it's alright for him even if the education system here in Malaysia rank the lowest in the world because people like him get paid by us to send his children to study in countries where the education systems are exemplary. But think about those who can't afford to do so. I suppose that does not matter at all to him and his colleagues in the cabinet as long as they can find an avenue to tell the young ones what to think and what to choose. Well, congratulations beccause this is one country where the servants get to screw their masters big time and yet do not get fired.

The camp is toatally unecesaary. Why have a camp to purportedly instil unity when the very people who are organising and sponsoring the camp do not believe in unity. The questions everyone needs to ask at this point is;

1) How do these people define nity? Does it need to the minorities to keep quiet and allow themselves to be bullied, insulted, marginalised and discriminated against in order to allow the majorty to "progress' so to speak?

2) what is the content of the course for the camp like?

3) How is this content delivered to the participants and by who?

4) How qualified are these instructors and what are their personal beliefs like?

Until and unless the organisers and sponsors of such camps can give us clear and precise answers to these questions, the camp IS IRRELEVANT and UNECESSARY.

We already have NS and that is enough. In fact the NS camps by themselves have already been proven to be badly managed what more with additional 1Malaysia Camps. The bottom kine is, Tan Sri, you do not need any camp to instil unity. You just need to do away with simple basic, selfishness and dirty political agendas.