KUALA LUMPUR, July 14 – Tommorrow, the MCA will propose to the Cabinet to maintain teaching science and mathematics in English at secondary school-level, said party president Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat.
He said the party needed to be mindful of the students in science or pure science streaming in Forms 4 and 5.
“As such, we should maintain using English as a medium of instruction in science and mathematics in secondary school-level because of the streaming,” he told reporters after chairing the pre-Cabinet meeting for MCA ministers and deputy ministers here today.
Ong also suggested that mathematics and science should be taught bi-lingual (Bahasa Melayu and English), if needed in Form 1 to 3, because the students might face problems in switching languages after they moved to Form 4.
Last Wednesday, the Government had annouced that the teaching and learning of science and mathematics in national schools would be reverted to the national language, effective 2012.
Deputy Prime Minister Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin said the teaching and learning of the two subjects in Chinese and Tamil national-type schools would be carried out in their respective mother tongue.
Ong said he would also suggest to the Cabinet to increase the time alloted for teaching the English subject in Chinese national-type primary schools (SJKC), by using the time slot previously used to teach science and mathematics in English.
“We note that the time alloted to teach the English subject in SJKC is far less than the national school (SK). Time allotment for teaching the subject in SK is 330 minutes for Standard 1 to 3 per week, while only 120 minutes are alloted for SJKC,” he said.
Ong said the party wanted the time allotted to teaching English to be increased to at least 180 minutes a week because it was worried of the English proficiency of SJKC students.
“All students in SJKC are required to learn three languages, that is Bahasa Melayu, English and Mandarin as compared to SK, so the time slot for teaching English is shorter than SK,” he said. – Bernama
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written by Cirda, July 14, 2009
written by Cirda, July 14, 2009
Why now only do you come out with suggestions? Hoping to do a flip after a flip-flop? Where were you when the cabinet was deliberating on this matter? It's either you were very quiet at the cabinet meeting or perhaps no one else was consulted including you... Mr Leader of MCA.
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written by Always Malaysian, July 14, 2009
written by Always Malaysian, July 14, 2009
MCA owes the public an honest and speedy explanation as to why it is planning to propose teaching Science and Mathematics in English at the secondary school level during the Cabinet meeting ONLY TOMORROW (15/7/09), and failed to make such a proposal during the round-table discussions and prior to the Deputy Prime Minister's recent announcement.
Without a satisfactory and acceptable explanation, MCA could lose considerable support, especially among urban voters in the next General Election.
Always Malaysian
Without a satisfactory and acceptable explanation, MCA could lose considerable support, especially among urban voters in the next General Election.
Always Malaysian
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written by Bring back English schools..., July 14, 2009
written by Bring back English schools..., July 14, 2009
This is what most teachers has been saying all the while.... keep PPSMI for secondary schools to make the transition to university easier ..... lets see if the MCA has any real influence in the cabinet.....
By the way, what say you DAP ??? Pakatan ???
By the way, what say you DAP ??? Pakatan ???
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written by ayermatahari, July 14, 2009
written by ayermatahari, July 14, 2009
I am wondering who is Deputy Minister...Wee! Polishing DPM balls. Real funny and stupid of MCA. Only talk after approval, showing that MCA concerned. Why not fight and against idea first place before announcement.
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written by Bluemoon, July 14, 2009
written by Bluemoon, July 14, 2009
These goofs will not stop asking, won't they? Given an opportunity they want nothing to do with BM inspite calling themsleve Bangsa Malaysia. A much better option is to have only one stream in the primary school and revert back to english at secondary level. What say OTK?
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written by BKWoo, July 14, 2009
written by BKWoo, July 14, 2009
They always say it is a cabinet decision. Is MCA in the cabinet or not? How come now only you say something logical?
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written by Jtan, July 15, 2009
written by Jtan, July 15, 2009
I bet it's only a show. It's orchestrated so that we are duped into believing that MCA is fighting for English. Most of them only speak the England.
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written by koko, July 15, 2009
written by koko, July 15, 2009
They should instead suggest the abolishment of vernacular school, the satan that stand from uniting all people in this country.
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written by Dr. M, July 15, 2009
written by Dr. M, July 15, 2009
pls pls pls.. dun use the children as white rats to test them scientifically and mathematically.. is so burdensome to them when they are so young.. adding time for classes will not help them lot.. the quality of the teachers is the main headache in this country.. pls pls pls, as the chinese says, use the correct medicine for the correct illness.. n Mr. Ong, i dont know whether should i call u slow cz u r really slow in giving ur opinion.. hmm.. at least 'u r not sleeping' (familiar?)
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written by anak melaka sejati, July 15, 2009
written by anak melaka sejati, July 15, 2009
Too late! The decision has been made and it is final. OTK has just woken up! Poor thing!
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written by nkkhoo, July 15, 2009
written by nkkhoo, July 15, 2009
MCA is either a sleeping or an insignificant member in the cabinet.
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written by Burung Murai, July 15, 2009
Please raise this proposal in weekly cabinet meeting instead of cheap publicity.
If you sucess , we will vote for MCA afterwhich STOP making English as a bargaining tools for each election.
I dare MCA will not suggest anything to UMNO.
written by Burung Murai, July 15, 2009
Please raise this proposal in weekly cabinet meeting instead of cheap publicity.
If you sucess , we will vote for MCA afterwhich STOP making English as a bargaining tools for each election.
I dare MCA will not suggest anything to UMNO.
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written by mustapha ong, July 15, 2009
written by mustapha ong, July 15, 2009
What's wrong with you guys out there? Everything seems to be on the negative mood and smacked of bad intention or vengeance. I am ashamed of the filthy language used in your comments as a fellow Malaysian.
MCA's effort to rethink the language issue in the teaching of Maths and Science is bold and commendable. Its forthcoming recommendation to the Cabinet in reconsidering to revert the decision back to the teaching of Maths and Science in English was not an after thought, or due to certain political pressure. It is still not too late and neither is it a flip-flop decision in such a crucial issue that will affect the future of our children.
Personally, I had supported the government's decision to revert the teaching of the two core subjects from English to Bahasa Malaysia gradually from 2012, taking into consideration the various options to be taken by the government on a win-win situation for all Malaysians. Today, I fully support MCA's initiative and share their aspirations and concern to submit their new proposal for the Cabinet's reconsideration. Nobody should politicise our educational policy for their own agenda.
I believe MCA's proposal to teach Maths and Science in English beginning from secondary school level, will provide a better solution to reduce the impact of the implementation for the benefit of the teachers and students. Let us start the new educational policy to teach both the subjects in Bahasa Malaysia gradually at primary school level, and at the same time enhance the teaching of English, Mandarin and Tamil at all levels.
The teaching and usage of Bahasa Malaysia should also be enhanced along with English in order to implement a better educational policy. Let us move forward in creating a better future for this generation and the next, with a sincere commitment and not based on emotions and vengeance from all quarters.
MCA's effort to rethink the language issue in the teaching of Maths and Science is bold and commendable. Its forthcoming recommendation to the Cabinet in reconsidering to revert the decision back to the teaching of Maths and Science in English was not an after thought, or due to certain political pressure. It is still not too late and neither is it a flip-flop decision in such a crucial issue that will affect the future of our children.
Personally, I had supported the government's decision to revert the teaching of the two core subjects from English to Bahasa Malaysia gradually from 2012, taking into consideration the various options to be taken by the government on a win-win situation for all Malaysians. Today, I fully support MCA's initiative and share their aspirations and concern to submit their new proposal for the Cabinet's reconsideration. Nobody should politicise our educational policy for their own agenda.
I believe MCA's proposal to teach Maths and Science in English beginning from secondary school level, will provide a better solution to reduce the impact of the implementation for the benefit of the teachers and students. Let us start the new educational policy to teach both the subjects in Bahasa Malaysia gradually at primary school level, and at the same time enhance the teaching of English, Mandarin and Tamil at all levels.
The teaching and usage of Bahasa Malaysia should also be enhanced along with English in order to implement a better educational policy. Let us move forward in creating a better future for this generation and the next, with a sincere commitment and not based on emotions and vengeance from all quarters.
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written by damansara, July 15, 2009
written by damansara, July 15, 2009
Aren't you a member of the Cabinet? Where were you when they made that stupid u-turn decision?
Isn't that Deputy Wee guy an MCA member? Why only now?
Is this part of your 'Save Mandarin First' campaign?
Ong Tee Kiat, right after the last GE you talk arrogantly about the need of your fellow BN leaders to change their this and that. You have happily put all the blame on others!
But in actual fact you are a STRONG MEMBER of the moronic team. You are in all counts the major face of all the problems.
STOP acting as if YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE THAT CARES.
DOUBLE FACE is written all over your arrogant face.
Isn't that Deputy Wee guy an MCA member? Why only now?
Is this part of your 'Save Mandarin First' campaign?
Ong Tee Kiat, right after the last GE you talk arrogantly about the need of your fellow BN leaders to change their this and that. You have happily put all the blame on others!
But in actual fact you are a STRONG MEMBER of the moronic team. You are in all counts the major face of all the problems.
STOP acting as if YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE THAT CARES.
DOUBLE FACE is written all over your arrogant face.
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written by Jack, July 15, 2009
written by Jack, July 15, 2009
What!! MCA want to destroy the chinese students by suggesting billigual of Malay + English in science & Math for at Form 1 to 3? You think Chinese students are language genius? Or you want to further ruin the resources of Chinese community in order to expand the independent schools? and further contribute to brain drain?
Come on, don't burden the students too much, there are students subjects to be taught in Malay e.g. Sejarah, Geografi, Moral, lukisan, Jasmani etc etc. Keep English for Math & Science from Form One onwards.
Come on, don't burden the students too much, there are students subjects to be taught in Malay e.g. Sejarah, Geografi, Moral, lukisan, Jasmani etc etc. Keep English for Math & Science from Form One onwards.
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written by Hang Tuah 1, July 15, 2009
written by Hang Tuah 1, July 15, 2009
I support the idea put forward by Ong Tee Keat,
Science and Maths should be taught in English for secondary school.
While the proposal for Form 1 to 3 be taught in bilingual - English and Malay,
To help students transition into English in Form 4 -
It should be noted loud and clear to Datuk Seri OTK,
I think you are out of touch on ground realities -
As for now and in the last 6 years since in the implementaions of PPSMI -
Science and Maths are been taught in Bahasa Melayu - only the text books are in English.
If you have children in Std 1 to 6 in national schools,
ask them how the teachers are teaching -
I have asked them and they told me the same story over and over -
Teachers teaching Science and Maths in national schools are using BM.
The same thing is happening in Form 1 to 5,
teachers are using Bahasa Melayu to teach Science and Maths,
Yes the text books are in English, but for the sake of Malay students - BM is used by most teachers.
Haven't you seen the results of the survey -
only 9pc of teachers in primary schools can use English for these two subjects.
Only 19pc of teachers in secondary schools can use English.
They know how to use English - but in actual facts - they are not using English,
even in urban areas, these teachers are using BM to teach these two subjects.
This is why I don't understand the Malay nationalists and vernacular educationists -
what are they fighting for -
it generally understood they are fighting for PPSMI be abolished for primary schools only.
But secondary these subjects should remain in English - in name only and in text books.
Science and Maths should be taught in English for secondary school.
While the proposal for Form 1 to 3 be taught in bilingual - English and Malay,
To help students transition into English in Form 4 -
It should be noted loud and clear to Datuk Seri OTK,
I think you are out of touch on ground realities -
As for now and in the last 6 years since in the implementaions of PPSMI -
Science and Maths are been taught in Bahasa Melayu - only the text books are in English.
If you have children in Std 1 to 6 in national schools,
ask them how the teachers are teaching -
I have asked them and they told me the same story over and over -
Teachers teaching Science and Maths in national schools are using BM.
The same thing is happening in Form 1 to 5,
teachers are using Bahasa Melayu to teach Science and Maths,
Yes the text books are in English, but for the sake of Malay students - BM is used by most teachers.
Haven't you seen the results of the survey -
only 9pc of teachers in primary schools can use English for these two subjects.
Only 19pc of teachers in secondary schools can use English.
They know how to use English - but in actual facts - they are not using English,
even in urban areas, these teachers are using BM to teach these two subjects.
This is why I don't understand the Malay nationalists and vernacular educationists -
what are they fighting for -
it generally understood they are fighting for PPSMI be abolished for primary schools only.
But secondary these subjects should remain in English - in name only and in text books.
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written by The Dragon, July 15, 2009
written by The Dragon, July 15, 2009
Revert the teachings of those subjects back to English ASAP for the sake of the Malaysian children.
They are our future. In most cases , people will go into misfits if there do not have a direction and knowledge. Knowledge is mostly obtained from English books.
All the poor and the middle class children will suffer in future when their children grows up in later years to know that MCA did not support the move to retain English as the medium of instructions.
They are our future. In most cases , people will go into misfits if there do not have a direction and knowledge. Knowledge is mostly obtained from English books.
All the poor and the middle class children will suffer in future when their children grows up in later years to know that MCA did not support the move to retain English as the medium of instructions.
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written by Jack, July 15, 2009
written by Jack, July 15, 2009
Can't understand OTK, is he from UMNO or MCA?
What is transition in Form 1 to 3 need to use billingual Malay+English for math & science, this looks like applicable for national school where transition is from Malay to English, whereas SRJK (C), transition is from Mandarin to other language! He got brain?
What is transition in Form 1 to 3 need to use billingual Malay+English for math & science, this looks like applicable for national school where transition is from Malay to English, whereas SRJK (C), transition is from Mandarin to other language! He got brain?
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written by change28, July 15, 2009
written by change28, July 15, 2009
Rather too late for any more discussion, stupid MCA.
Malaysia's advantage in the English language versus other countries have already been destroyed. It will take ages to get back to a competitive advantage and that is assuming the other countries are standing still.
As long as BN/UMNO keeps working on the assumption that the Bumiputras are incapable and uncompetitive, this situation will persist.
How did BN/UMNO arrive at this view of the Bumiputras in the first place?
I have not met any bumiputras who are less capable than others but I have certainly met bumiputras with a low self-esteem and confidence due to BN/UMNO's constant reminder of their lack of ability.
Malaysia's advantage in the English language versus other countries have already been destroyed. It will take ages to get back to a competitive advantage and that is assuming the other countries are standing still.
As long as BN/UMNO keeps working on the assumption that the Bumiputras are incapable and uncompetitive, this situation will persist.
How did BN/UMNO arrive at this view of the Bumiputras in the first place?
I have not met any bumiputras who are less capable than others but I have certainly met bumiputras with a low self-esteem and confidence due to BN/UMNO's constant reminder of their lack of ability.
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written by Jong, July 16, 2009
written by Jong, July 16, 2009
Failure of the country's education policy! After 53 years under this UMNO-led government, this is as far as we get - just as confused!
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written by Jong, July 16, 2009
written by Jong, July 16, 2009
There's no focus, has never been - too much polticking in our education system and our children are made guinea pigs!
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written by KL, July 17, 2009
written by KL, July 17, 2009
Aiyah... MCA no use one. Cosmetic only-lah.. Only there for show.
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written by No hope, July 18, 2009
written by No hope, July 18, 2009
MCA is out of touch. MCA takes the cue from public reaction. All statements are politically-motivated. Political stooge of a party what, what else to expect?
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written by children of lesser God, July 18, 2009
written by children of lesser God, July 18, 2009
To MCA stop been a hypocrite. You have not been able to put the chinese schools in order and you are talking something else. This is what we the rakyat of this country got to say. Indian "pordah!" Chinese
"chow-lah!" and the malay "peki-lah!" That is how much the rakyat love you. Enough of disgrace to the
chinese already. Let us wait for Chua Jiu Meng to make us chinese again.
"chow-lah!" and the malay "peki-lah!" That is how much the rakyat love you. Enough of disgrace to the
chinese already. Let us wait for Chua Jiu Meng to make us chinese again.
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