By Debra Chong
KUALA LUMPUR, July 20 — With the public baying for blood over the mysterious death of political secretary Teoh Beng Hock, talk has been rife that the national anti-graft body's top advisers might quit or demand changes to interrogation procedures.
Tan Sri Ramon Navaratnam, who heads one of the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission's (MACC) five advisory panels, confirmed today that several of his fellow advisers have indicated they may quit their appointed posts to protest the methods in which witnesses are questioned for information.
While he said none have openly declared they would step down for certain, the chief of the Panel on Consultation and Prevention of Corruption seemed to feel the rising heat and pressure from the public.
“Speaking for myself, I want to carry on,” Navaratnam told The Malaysian Insider when asked if he would step down in protest.
“No point in resigning. That's the easy way out. We've got a public trust to fulfil,” the former civil servant explained, stressing that the challenge was in taking accountability for something he had committed himself to.
Navaratnam said he fully backs the setting up of a Royal Commission of Inquiry to investigate the MACC, which is suspected to have had a hand in the death of Teoh.
The 30-year-old had been questioned for over eight hours straight by an MACC officer on a case of alleged fraud over state funds involving his boss, Selangor exco member Ean Yong Hian Wah.
The MACC said it released him at 3.45am on the day he was to get married. His body was found sprawled on the rooftop of the block beside the MACC's headquarters in Shah Alam at 1.30pm later that same day.
Navaratnam pointed out he was the first among the 42 people who were appointed early this year to oversee the fledgling MACC to publicly condemn the manner in which the officers carried out their job.
Six months ago when it was launched, the MACC enjoyed the full weight of public approval behind it as it took over the anti-graft fight from disgraced predecessor, the Anti-Corruption Agency (ACA), although the personnel remained the same.
Today, the supposed giant of reform is reeling from the full weight of the public's fury.
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written by idiot, July 20, 2009
written by idiot, July 20, 2009
If these people have any honour, they should resign. MACC has demonstrated serious management weaknesses. Seniro management and the advisory boards members must be accountable for their failures. I do not agree why Ramon Navaratnam should want to stay. He will not be able to fix anything. He knows nothing about control and procedures of investigation. He is just a deadweight.
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written by Trigem, July 20, 2009
written by Trigem, July 20, 2009
MACC's D-G Haji Ahmad Said bin Hamdan, "Stupid Malaysians. We just had our name changed, but everything remained the same including our personnel. They thought we have a different agency than before. LMAO."
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written by Jtan, July 20, 2009
written by Jtan, July 20, 2009
Where is your HONOUR? You have known about the interrogation methods and seems that you have agreed to it. We the public do not trust you anymore. Please resign gracefully.
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written by kenu, July 20, 2009
written by kenu, July 20, 2009
Do somethinglah...talk all the time also no use. In PDRM, people die, in MACC people also die. Some more ask people Cina atau Melayu....hoi warga Malaysia lah
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written by Onlooker, July 20, 2009
written by Onlooker, July 20, 2009
close down the whole thing lah. they are not operating according to it's purpose. some more all the personnel remained the same as previous ACA (ask DPM to send them to camp no hope).
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written by tony, July 20, 2009
written by tony, July 20, 2009
by looking at thing that had been going on over ,the last few months,,u wonder if macc,is realy form to fight corruption at ,,all,,,most of the time,,they jsut want to get it out on the opposition party,,while,khir,,toyo,,million manson,is left,, unanswer,,here is a guy been question over a payment,of 2400 ,and tht lead to his dead,,,so whether u quit or not,,does not matter ,to macc,,thy are not bother,,at all,,
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written by swipenter, July 20, 2009
written by swipenter, July 20, 2009
I think the top advisers should make their stand publicly and demand for radical changes to the way MACC conduct themselves. If MACC brushes your recommendations aside leave at once. MACC has lost all its trust and creditibility not long after its rebranding exercise and restoring its image it is going to be an uphill battle. I am not surprised if HK ICAC wouldnt want to have anything to do with MACC now.
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written by haji ahmad, July 20, 2009
written by haji ahmad, July 20, 2009
Tan Sri Ramon Navaratnam, kenapa MACC nak bunuh...???? dia cuma saksi, bila saksi ia adalah berperanan penting kepada kena tuduh...selalunya siapa yang akan bunuh saksi tak kan MACC or POLIS akan bunuh saksi...???? pening kepala bila banyak pengarah yang mengarah cerita....
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written by kahseng, July 20, 2009
written by kahseng, July 20, 2009
Yes, there is a point to quitting.
Give the government the ultimatum to move the MACC under the direct oversight of the parliament. This is the only way to make sure MACC can be reformed. As it has been, MACC was given more power, but not more oversight. What is it they say about power and absolute power?
Or else, quit.
Give the government the ultimatum to move the MACC under the direct oversight of the parliament. This is the only way to make sure MACC can be reformed. As it has been, MACC was given more power, but not more oversight. What is it they say about power and absolute power?
Or else, quit.
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written by Jeremy Tankh, July 20, 2009
written by Jeremy Tankh, July 20, 2009
Tan Sri Ramon Navaratnam, the chief of the Panel on Consultation and Prevention of Corruption, one of the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission's (MACC) five advisory panels, is right to make his stand that he is not quitting to protest the methods in which witnesses are questioned for information, because “No point in resigning. That's the easy way out. We've got a public trust to fulfil”.
But, I think he should quit so that he may not be accused of "attempting to undermine the MACC", one of the many "Malay-controlled institutions", according to Umno-controlled Berita Minggu and Mingguan Malaysia, when he, Ramon needs to make a stand on integrity.
As a matter of fact, along the same argument of these UMNO-controlled media, the official mouth piece of UMNO, all non-Malay should quit all post link to all other "Malay-controlled institutions" like PDRM, Judiciary, Election Commission, the Army, etc so as not to be accused of some kind of "attempting to undermine the Malay-controlled institutions", when the time comes for them to make a stand on right or wrong.
"Malay-controlled institutions"?????!!!!! What happened to 1Malaysia?
But, I think he should quit so that he may not be accused of "attempting to undermine the MACC", one of the many "Malay-controlled institutions", according to Umno-controlled Berita Minggu and Mingguan Malaysia, when he, Ramon needs to make a stand on integrity.
As a matter of fact, along the same argument of these UMNO-controlled media, the official mouth piece of UMNO, all non-Malay should quit all post link to all other "Malay-controlled institutions" like PDRM, Judiciary, Election Commission, the Army, etc so as not to be accused of some kind of "attempting to undermine the Malay-controlled institutions", when the time comes for them to make a stand on right or wrong.
"Malay-controlled institutions"?????!!!!! What happened to 1Malaysia?
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written by Hang Tuah 1, July 20, 2009
written by Hang Tuah 1, July 20, 2009
Tan Sri Ramon Navaratnam, who heads one of the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission's (MACC) five advisory panels, confirmed today that several of his fellow advisers have indicated they may quit their appointed posts to protest the methods in which witnesses are questioned for information.
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The most honorable thing to do -
failure to protect lives and the failure of the advisory panels to ensure professionalism of MACC -
that these advisors should resign.
As advisor, you have no power.
Now Tan Sri Ramon Navaratnam has been calling for the setting up of the Royal Commission -
but your appeal apparently has gone to deaf ears.
The interrogation - more than 8 hours, or about 11 hours - 5 pm to 3.45 am -
This reason alone - such long and marathon hours of subjecting a helpful witness, not a suspect nor a criminal - this reason is good enough to demand all top guns in MACC - especially Ahmad Said as MACC chief to appologise to the family and fiancee and to resign...
Not one word of appology at this time - shame.
In this case, all the leaders of the advisory panels should appologise on behalf of MACC - for such cruel methods of questioning a witness or a suspect.
Tan Sri - why don't you show them the example - you appologise first - otherwise, you should resign lah - and I think for me, for you - that is the harder thing to do than to stay on.
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The most honorable thing to do -
failure to protect lives and the failure of the advisory panels to ensure professionalism of MACC -
that these advisors should resign.
As advisor, you have no power.
Now Tan Sri Ramon Navaratnam has been calling for the setting up of the Royal Commission -
but your appeal apparently has gone to deaf ears.
The interrogation - more than 8 hours, or about 11 hours - 5 pm to 3.45 am -
This reason alone - such long and marathon hours of subjecting a helpful witness, not a suspect nor a criminal - this reason is good enough to demand all top guns in MACC - especially Ahmad Said as MACC chief to appologise to the family and fiancee and to resign...
Not one word of appology at this time - shame.
In this case, all the leaders of the advisory panels should appologise on behalf of MACC - for such cruel methods of questioning a witness or a suspect.
Tan Sri - why don't you show them the example - you appologise first - otherwise, you should resign lah - and I think for me, for you - that is the harder thing to do than to stay on.
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written by Abdullah, July 20, 2009
written by Abdullah, July 20, 2009
If you want to show accountability, please concentrate on the million-dollar or billion-dollar case. show us your priority. Then maybe rakyat can understand your stand.
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written by ziggy, July 20, 2009
written by ziggy, July 20, 2009
For God sake, please take Full responsibility of the shamefull and sickening tragedy !! You are part of it.
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written by scyeo, July 20, 2009
written by scyeo, July 20, 2009
Tan Sri Ramon would be right to stay on and fight to uphold the public trust only if he really believes that he can actually make a difference. Otherwise it will only lend credibility to an instituition that has totally lost it. Me thinks the only way forward is to tear this MACC down and restart witha new set of people and rules. An organistaion that serves the people and not the political masters.
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written by novice101, July 20, 2009
written by novice101, July 20, 2009
Navaratnam, if you stay on hope you will do a better job than what you and your members have done so far !!!!!!
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written by stephen, July 20, 2009
written by stephen, July 20, 2009
I just would like to express my sadness & angry toward MACC caused the dead of innocent man. Me a member/local leader from a component party of BN, are strongly request a throughly investigation into the case by royal commission immediately without delay & on urgent basis. The murderers from MACC shall bring to the justice & face the death sentence. We are angry & continue to be very angry until the true/justice has prevail.
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written by zackeye, July 20, 2009
written by zackeye, July 20, 2009
Some heads must roll to prove to the public that MACC is a reformed ACA not just same person with a better clothing. In fact to the general public the perception is worse because MACC is deemed to be the tool of BN in suppressing opposition. Just like the ISA being used to curtail opposition.
They are following Singapore's style of making opposition leaders bankrupt so that they cannot participate in the political process. In Malaysia the way to go is to charge them in court or in the media for corruption so that the public will see that the opposition members are no better than the BN leaders.
They are following Singapore's style of making opposition leaders bankrupt so that they cannot participate in the political process. In Malaysia the way to go is to charge them in court or in the media for corruption so that the public will see that the opposition members are no better than the BN leaders.
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written by bull, July 20, 2009
written by bull, July 20, 2009
Tan Sri Navaratnam. You failed in the public trust. That is why you have to resign. Being appointed advisor to MACC was an honour and a duty. It is not to massage your ego. The honourable thing to do when one failed is to resign.
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written by James, July 20, 2009
written by James, July 20, 2009
Tan Sri don't just say it when you don't mean it. Tan Sri I thaught you was an honest and honourable man and should be able to the right thing. Quit if it is a right and honourable way to respect a living, a witness is not a suspect and no one should loose his life for helping in an investigation.
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written by Truth, July 20, 2009
written by Truth, July 20, 2009
Enough finger pointing. Most important now is "who killed Teoh Beng Hock"
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written by Nick, July 20, 2009
written by Nick, July 20, 2009
Please do not slam Tan Sri Ramon. He is a genuine article, one of the few left in the MACC. He is on the side of Good battling evil daily. Please stay on and fight the corrupters and evil doers. However, I cannot say the same about Ahmad Said. From the moment he confronted the press at the first Q&A, he has sprouted all lies. His facts have all been inconsistent. No CCTV but now got CCTV. Bloody useless man!
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written by Jason, July 20, 2009
written by Jason, July 20, 2009
I remember there was a former HK ICAC figure who was giving good words about MACC without knowing heads and tails about it. I wonder whether that ICAC fellow regrets singing praises about it after knowing the MACC has now done something that the ICAC has never done before -- get a person killed while in custody.
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written by k c low, July 20, 2009
written by k c low, July 20, 2009
The Rakyat must understand the MACC actually stands for MALAYSIAN AGENCY FOR CORRUPTION CLEARANCE. Former Selangor MB says he contacted MACC on his purchase of the 24 mil enclave and the MACC have cleared him. Fantastic.
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written by SW, July 20, 2009
written by SW, July 20, 2009
Quote1: Teoh Beng Hock is "worth more to us alive than dead".
Quote2: MACC is worth more to Malaysian dead than alive.
Quote2: MACC is worth more to Malaysian dead than alive.
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written by OneCent, July 20, 2009
written by OneCent, July 20, 2009
Wonder whether the transformation from ACA to MACC brings with it additional power vis-a-vis interrogation methods. Someone has already commented they duplicate it from PDRM. Those in authority please be mindful that your act should be within the scope of law. MACC, since you are in authority you should be held guilty until proven otherwise.
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written by TheHobbit, July 20, 2009
written by TheHobbit, July 20, 2009
Tan Sri,
You have been the Chairman and things still happen. Staying on will not make a difference. Resigning is not the easy way out, it is the right way out.
You have been the Chairman and things still happen. Staying on will not make a difference. Resigning is not the easy way out, it is the right way out.
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written by DiggingThe Truth, July 20, 2009
written by DiggingThe Truth, July 20, 2009
Here is the scripts from PDRM and MACC
"case going to transfer to Bukit Aman, so that there will be more collabrated and coordinated effort to get instructions from the very top to reconstruct the "evidences" for a covered up homocide". Oh well, evidences will be lost and containminated also during the transfer. Case closed!!!
Mark my word for it. Don't expect anything close to any kind of investigation will take place. They will put up a show as long as the regime in power. Sooner or later may even make Robert Mugabe and Charles Taylor look like a saints.
"case going to transfer to Bukit Aman, so that there will be more collabrated and coordinated effort to get instructions from the very top to reconstruct the "evidences" for a covered up homocide". Oh well, evidences will be lost and containminated also during the transfer. Case closed!!!
Mark my word for it. Don't expect anything close to any kind of investigation will take place. They will put up a show as long as the regime in power. Sooner or later may even make Robert Mugabe and Charles Taylor look like a saints.
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written by hangkasturi, July 20, 2009
written by hangkasturi, July 20, 2009
all malaysian government agencies that have become too trigger happy should be disbanded. all officers involved in death of interviewees should be prosecuted and sentenced to be hanged. all advisors and the rest of the agency must resign in shame, and let society turn them into social pariahs.
these actions are to save the agencies and departments from turning into disgraced pariahs and scums of malaysian society for taking salaries from the public in one hand, and harming the same public with the other.
these actions are to save the agencies and departments from turning into disgraced pariahs and scums of malaysian society for taking salaries from the public in one hand, and harming the same public with the other.
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written by ian teh, July 20, 2009
written by ian teh, July 20, 2009
all the very best Ramon. That is very brave and very noble. I will say a prayer for you and hope that you see victory before you run out of time.
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written by Sam, July 20, 2009
written by Sam, July 20, 2009
What the shit is this "we've got the public trust to fulfill." The whole darne board should resign!!!!
All of you has failed the public, and fail badly at that, almost a betrayal. Don't try to justify your stay.
All of you has failed the public, and fail badly at that, almost a betrayal. Don't try to justify your stay.
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written by Harun Hashim, July 20, 2009
written by Harun Hashim, July 20, 2009
People! People!
Malaysians are tolerant and are ready to be injured, to be abducted, to be killed and we remain silent.
Let the Government do what it wants...to remain in power.
We allow the people we voted in to keep their seats and encourage them to bully us. We are useless.
Now we know why persons like Dato' Zaid Ibrahim, Y.M Tunku Aziz, Dato' Syed Ahmad Idid are purposely kept OUT of the various Anti-Corription panels or committees. They want only OBEDIENT slvaes. Still we Malaysians remain cool, we just sit and shit. And THEY continue to ravage our land!
Malaysians are tolerant and are ready to be injured, to be abducted, to be killed and we remain silent.
Let the Government do what it wants...to remain in power.
We allow the people we voted in to keep their seats and encourage them to bully us. We are useless.
Now we know why persons like Dato' Zaid Ibrahim, Y.M Tunku Aziz, Dato' Syed Ahmad Idid are purposely kept OUT of the various Anti-Corription panels or committees. They want only OBEDIENT slvaes. Still we Malaysians remain cool, we just sit and shit. And THEY continue to ravage our land!
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written by hangkasturi, July 20, 2009
written by hangkasturi, July 20, 2009
all malaysian government agencies that have become too trigger happy should be disbanded. all officers involved in death of interviewees should be prosecuted and sentenced to be hanged. all advisors and the rest of the agency must resign in shame, and let society turn them into social pariahs.
these actions are to save the agencies and departments from turning into disgraced pariahs and scums of malaysian society for taking salaries from the public in one hand, and harming the same public with the other.
these actions are to save the agencies and departments from turning into disgraced pariahs and scums of malaysian society for taking salaries from the public in one hand, and harming the same public with the other.
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written by Sad, July 20, 2009
written by Sad, July 20, 2009
MACC is a repackaging of the disgraced ACA by Badawi. Given a new name, additional powers, but he same weak management and people. This MACC was palmed to the public as the new package anti corruption agency. The eminent names in the advisory boards were to lend glitters to a some turds.
In 6 months, MACC has achieved a bigger disgrace than ACA. Does the glitters improved anything? No. it did not. But they managed to hide the dirt for a while. This is time the glitters are removed. It is dishonest. It is untruthful.
Resign. Resign. Resign.
In 6 months, MACC has achieved a bigger disgrace than ACA. Does the glitters improved anything? No. it did not. But they managed to hide the dirt for a while. This is time the glitters are removed. It is dishonest. It is untruthful.
Resign. Resign. Resign.
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written by sabahchai, July 20, 2009
written by sabahchai, July 20, 2009
All the members in the Operation Assessment Panel shall resign. Shame of you!
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written by rexis, July 20, 2009
written by rexis, July 20, 2009
No, the chief should quit, not the advisor.
At least the advisor didn't add oil to the fire by saying MACC is not responsible for anything and will continue to "fight" corruption of misusing funds to buy flags.
At least the advisor didn't add oil to the fire by saying MACC is not responsible for anything and will continue to "fight" corruption of misusing funds to buy flags.
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written by General Patton, July 20, 2009
written by General Patton, July 20, 2009
I can bet with my last penny, he won't quit because he is drawing gaji buta and having a comfortable life in his 5 star office.
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written by M.K., July 20, 2009
written by M.K., July 20, 2009
MACC is just old wine in a new bottle. These govt. agencies exist in name just to keep their political masters in power. Nothing more.
Did you hear anything about that fellow who was in the news for the wrong reasons, having built a palace with money that seems to have fallen from the sky? I don't think MACC is interested to investigate him. They are just going after opposition MPs and Assemblymen to investigate alleged "corruption" involving peanuts.
In this case, their plans have backfired and their poor victim was Teoh. Let us pray that Teoh did not die in vain and those responsible will be brought to justice. May his soul rest in peace..
Did you hear anything about that fellow who was in the news for the wrong reasons, having built a palace with money that seems to have fallen from the sky? I don't think MACC is interested to investigate him. They are just going after opposition MPs and Assemblymen to investigate alleged "corruption" involving peanuts.
In this case, their plans have backfired and their poor victim was Teoh. Let us pray that Teoh did not die in vain and those responsible will be brought to justice. May his soul rest in peace..
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written by Make a change, July 20, 2009
written by Make a change, July 20, 2009
Quiting may play into the hand of certain parties. Tan Sri Navaratnam is an honourable man, I have full confidence in him to make Malaysia a better place. That's why the government appointed him to add credibility to the Commission, just like what Pak Lah did by appointing Zaid Ibrahim previously. Make a stand and demand for change if you can as now is the golden opportunity to do it with all the public pressure. It is better being inside to make a change rather than as a pressure group outside. If ignored then all like minded advisors should resign instead of being tarnished by the Commission. The public outburst is not spontaneous or emotional, it has been boiling over for a long time.
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written by lee terry, July 20, 2009
written by lee terry, July 20, 2009
no point to resign but need to reform the whole MACC, MACC director should resign as he give a not responsible statement to the public, also he dare not show up his face to late Mr Theo's family, since he said MACC don't responsible Mr Teoh death
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written by Abdul 'Afuw, July 20, 2009
written by Abdul 'Afuw, July 20, 2009
Navaratnam should know better. Resigning is not an easy way out. It allows investigations to be carried out without interference that would otherwise be there without the resignation. Also, resignation is not the end of it. The official who resigned is not let off scot free following a resignation. If the investigation finds him guilty, he must face the music. A suspension at least is warranted here.
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written by HJ Angus, July 20, 2009
written by HJ Angus, July 20, 2009
Please take a simple poll to indicate how you think TEOH died based on what you have read.
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written by pat ling, July 20, 2009
written by pat ling, July 20, 2009
The ghost of TBH will be back to haunt those guilty for the rest of their lives. So watch out, you bastards!!!
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written by lee terry, July 20, 2009
written by lee terry, July 20, 2009
Najib's ONE MALAYSIAN fail completely we did't seen any Malay and Indian BN representaives to pay last respect to MR Teoh except PKR Dato Seri Anwar and Pas representatives. "ONE MALAYSIAN " TAK BOLEH''
MACC Lagi tak boleh
MACC Lagi tak boleh
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written by YouBohong, July 20, 2009
written by YouBohong, July 20, 2009
Many with facts are not printed by you.
I guess you fear that you too may end up dead, is this true?
We are all very sad!
I guess you fear that you too may end up dead, is this true?
We are all very sad!
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written by Xiong Mao, July 20, 2009
written by Xiong Mao, July 20, 2009
Dear PM, it is still the best to set up Royal Commission for 2 reasons. 1) To investigate the death of Teoh 2) To have recommendation from the commission to turn MACC into a professional and integrity body MACC is still new, their must be lots of weaknesses hence their are room for improvements.
If this case prolongs, it is not healthy for both ruling and opposition. The best is still to find out the root cause and cure it.
If this case prolongs, it is not healthy for both ruling and opposition. The best is still to find out the root cause and cure it.
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written by Aries, July 20, 2009
written by Aries, July 20, 2009
///Six months ago when it was launched, the MACC enjoyed the full weight of public approval behind it as it took over the anti-graft fight from disgraced predecessor, the Anti-Corruption Agency (ACA), although the personnel remained the same.///
When the personnel in MACC remain the same as the disgraced predecessor ACA, HOW COULD IT BE SAID TO HAVE BEEN REFORMED!???
When there is a reform, it must BE IN SUBSTANCE, NOT ONLY IN form!
It is just a mockery and a great joke!
Let there be TRUE AND REAL REFORM, please...
Malaysians are tired of being duped and taken for rides...and don't pull any more wool over our eyes, there is just too much wool already from previous jokes and mockeries!
When the personnel in MACC remain the same as the disgraced predecessor ACA, HOW COULD IT BE SAID TO HAVE BEEN REFORMED!???
When there is a reform, it must BE IN SUBSTANCE, NOT ONLY IN form!
It is just a mockery and a great joke!
Let there be TRUE AND REAL REFORM, please...
Malaysians are tired of being duped and taken for rides...and don't pull any more wool over our eyes, there is just too much wool already from previous jokes and mockeries!
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written by wong, July 20, 2009
written by wong, July 20, 2009
outsource the whole MACC to Hong Kong ICAC lah !
some more dare to say MACC is better than ICAC!
some more dare to say MACC is better than ICAC!
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written by tak takut, July 20, 2009
written by tak takut, July 20, 2009
no matter how MACC reform, this goverment must change for the better future.
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written by Sad, July 20, 2009
written by Sad, July 20, 2009
Ok. May be Tan Sri Navaratnam can stay. What about the other ego tripper? What about that newspaper editor? They dare not make a stand. They should go. Damn good riddance.
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written by chong, July 20, 2009
written by chong, July 20, 2009
Tan Sri have to resign for his failure to impress MACC to do the right thing. Let others have their short. You are only there to warm the sit and grease the BN government for your personal gain all your life. Please leave.
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written by limabc, July 20, 2009
written by limabc, July 20, 2009
If all the MACC advisory panel still have sences, they should all resign. Time to show your pride.
Don't sit on the rotten MACC anymore.
Don't sit on the rotten MACC anymore.
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written by Robert, July 20, 2009
written by Robert, July 20, 2009
Tan Sri Navaratham, you know you cannot effect change from within so your talk of fighting for change rings hollow. Resign in protest and let the public and the government know that you are disgusted by the thugs running the MACC that do not follow procedure and have no accountability.
The MACC is simply a rebranding of ACA. Why have the same group of personnel running the MACC that are from the ACA. It is simply the change of name but the modus operandi is the same. We the public are sick of the government institution that thinks that they are there to serve the ruling government. They are suppose to serve the public and they should and will be held accountable for their actions. These hooligans are worse than our common day gangster on the street!
The MACC is simply a rebranding of ACA. Why have the same group of personnel running the MACC that are from the ACA. It is simply the change of name but the modus operandi is the same. We the public are sick of the government institution that thinks that they are there to serve the ruling government. They are suppose to serve the public and they should and will be held accountable for their actions. These hooligans are worse than our common day gangster on the street!
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written by hopeless, July 20, 2009
written by hopeless, July 20, 2009
Hmmm.....Ku han......te oh.......wat next.....?????....reall hopeless.......poor guys.heart pain when think........feel sorry for you guys.
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written by Jason, July 20, 2009
written by Jason, July 20, 2009
Nazri says in an interview that the sort of interrogation by the MACC/ACA has been used for years. If Nazri knows about this, then how can Ramon Navaratnam not know about it? If he didn't know about such wrong-doings and dirty methods, what kind of advisor is he? If he knew about it but never spoke out, then what kind of advisor is he? Looks like the only guarantee from his being an advisor is definitely personal gain. Resign, if you have any honour, please.
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written by jj, July 20, 2009
written by jj, July 20, 2009
resign lah navaratham n close macc down!!!
what is so proud of u at macc!!!
what is so proud of u at macc!!!
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written by merde, July 20, 2009
written by merde, July 20, 2009
Badawi took a useless dog and gave it some teeth. What happened? The dog start biting the owners.
In office, he did nothing. Out of office, he left a pot of shit.
In office, he did nothing. Out of office, he left a pot of shit.
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written by Matureman07, July 20, 2009
written by Matureman07, July 20, 2009
Setup Royal Commission.
Suspend the MACC's Chief and all those directly and indirectly involve in this case that lead to the demised of Teoh. If the royal commission found they are innocent, their positions will be re-instated. If found quilty, they should be prosecuted to the maximum of the law.
Meanwhile the government should also consider suspending Utusan Melayu's paper, their chief and their editor for the racist statement made by them. This country does not need such racist people around. They are the liability of the country and the cause of divide.
This should apply to all politicians and also other medias. This is to set a precedent and warning to all those who playing racist card. This country want to unite the people and not divide. Those who want to divide should resign from their positions.
This should be the first step. Anything less will be unacceptable.
Suspend the MACC's Chief and all those directly and indirectly involve in this case that lead to the demised of Teoh. If the royal commission found they are innocent, their positions will be re-instated. If found quilty, they should be prosecuted to the maximum of the law.
Meanwhile the government should also consider suspending Utusan Melayu's paper, their chief and their editor for the racist statement made by them. This country does not need such racist people around. They are the liability of the country and the cause of divide.
This should apply to all politicians and also other medias. This is to set a precedent and warning to all those who playing racist card. This country want to unite the people and not divide. Those who want to divide should resign from their positions.
This should be the first step. Anything less will be unacceptable.
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written by kb, July 20, 2009
written by kb, July 20, 2009
Tan Sri Ramon Navaratnam, please save the last dregs of your dignity and resign. You know that you can do nothing in the advisory panel. You are nothing but a fig leaf for the MACC and you are shamelessly and knowingly allowing your name to be used to window dress the vile MACC.
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written by *&^%^%&, July 20, 2009
written by *&^%^%&, July 20, 2009
Navaratnam was quoted as saying he want to stay to server in the spirit of ex-civil service. This is a problem. Civil service mentality.
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written by ular, July 20, 2009
written by ular, July 20, 2009
stupid pak lah introduced MACC. this has what it has become. everyone, 1,2,3, "BLAME PAK LAH!!!"
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written by Bernard , July 20, 2009
written by Bernard , July 20, 2009
At which point will Navaratnam and others in the 5 advisory panels realise that they are only the public dressings of the MACC. Dressings to make the body look respectable nationally and internationally. Only by coming out and condemning the MACC openly and then resigning in disgust will the members redeem themselves.
The MACC have proved that they are incapable and probably grossly incompetent in investigating any case without using strong arm tactics. And their action in steering clear of alleged practices of BN and UMNO personalties and leaders also indicate their clear bias. They are in fact a joke to most Malaysians.
The Government needs to act immediately to clear the decks of all these abuses by the MACC if they are to avoid further condemnation internationally and the country placed in the bottom heap of the most corrupt countries in the world. And the contrast with our closest neighbour makes our position all the more shameful.
The MACC have proved that they are incapable and probably grossly incompetent in investigating any case without using strong arm tactics. And their action in steering clear of alleged practices of BN and UMNO personalties and leaders also indicate their clear bias. They are in fact a joke to most Malaysians.
The Government needs to act immediately to clear the decks of all these abuses by the MACC if they are to avoid further condemnation internationally and the country placed in the bottom heap of the most corrupt countries in the world. And the contrast with our closest neighbour makes our position all the more shameful.
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written by RakyatMoneyWasted, July 20, 2009
written by RakyatMoneyWasted, July 20, 2009
The giant trip on it's own leg because it didn't bother to walk the path it should!
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written by BuzukNajis, July 20, 2009
written by BuzukNajis, July 20, 2009
The problems got way beyond torturous interrogating method !!!
It is also the racist behavior & comment from MACC officer & the inaction against UMNO BN grafts that matters !!!!!
Totally no action at all on UMNO BN corruption !!!
- Malacca CM Ali Rustam found guity of Money Politics by the most corrupted Political Party
- Toyo lavish Disney tours, Middle East investment & his RM26million Palace
- PKFZ RM13billion loses
It is also the racist behavior & comment from MACC officer & the inaction against UMNO BN grafts that matters !!!!!
Totally no action at all on UMNO BN corruption !!!
- Malacca CM Ali Rustam found guity of Money Politics by the most corrupted Political Party
- Toyo lavish Disney tours, Middle East investment & his RM26million Palace
- PKFZ RM13billion loses
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written by akueden, July 20, 2009
written by akueden, July 20, 2009
Tan Sri Ramon Navaratnam and gang should resign to show their disgust at the MACC. You and your so-called advisors have not been doing your job and the consequence is what had happened to the late Teoh. If you had been monitoring the MACC how come the MACC's investigations are highly selective, they are supposed to be neutral and impartial. By not resigning you are showing that you are in alliance with them and the ruling party and from your performance it shows that you seem to be "makan gaji/elaun buta saja." Quit and don't waste the taxpayers money.
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written by horrible hagar, July 20, 2009
written by horrible hagar, July 20, 2009
R U all insanse ? ask me to resign ? who r u going to pay my gaji ? who r u going to give me free car to drive with free petrol ? r u all nuts ? at least now i got paid by u the tax moni why should i resign ! wht honourable things wht accountable things as long as my moni is paid n THIS IS WHAT I CARE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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written by Oxy, July 21, 2009
written by Oxy, July 21, 2009
TOO LATE NAVA! If you don' quit gracefully, public opinion will force
you to quit dramatically. From day One of MACC I felt so much disgust for you to sell your good name and others to allow MACC crooks to carry
on. If not for Hock Beng, you are comfortable being one of them.
The fact is you dare not declare publically and transparantly how much
you are paid to be a decorative wall-flower.
you to quit dramatically. From day One of MACC I felt so much disgust for you to sell your good name and others to allow MACC crooks to carry
on. If not for Hock Beng, you are comfortable being one of them.
The fact is you dare not declare publically and transparantly how much
you are paid to be a decorative wall-flower.
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written by akueden, July 21, 2009
written by akueden, July 21, 2009
Tan Sri Ramon Navaratnam and gang should resign to show their disgust at the MACC. The so-called advisors have not been doing their job and the consequence is what had happened to the late Teoh. If you had been monitoring the MACC how come the MACC's investigations are highly selective, they are supposed to be neutral and impartial. By not resigning you are showing that you are in alliance with them and the ruling party and from your performance it shows that you seem to be "makan gaji/elaun buta saja." Quit and don't waste the taxpayers money.
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written by Jimini, July 21, 2009
written by Jimini, July 21, 2009
MACC is the Guantanamo Bay of Malaysia. The US have decided to close it. Malaysia should too.
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written by marksawyer, July 21, 2009
written by marksawyer, July 21, 2009
The MACC advisors have been sleeping all this while. Now someone has died. The advisors did nothing whilst the MACC under their watch had been abusing their powers and selectively investigating & harrassing their poltical masters' opponents. And the advisors did nothing and said nothing. Shame on all of you! Blood is also on your hands! Take responsibility and RESIGN!
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written by katirvoli, July 21, 2009
written by katirvoli, July 21, 2009
What do you expect - the same smut under a new name. Intergrity and commitment for truth is not in their dictionary. What's highlighted is that they r the ruling gomens handiboys.
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written by Paul Warren, July 21, 2009
written by Paul Warren, July 21, 2009
Ramon and the rest of the advsors are, by what he has said, shows that they are cloeless of their roles as advisors. He shpukd realise they are just like Christmas decorations or gift wrappers to make whats inside look good.
Maybe Ramon can tell us what he has done to highlight to the MACC that after the BN takeover of Perak the silence over MACC charge of corruption of the two PKR ADUNS who, since then have become independents and support the BN, shows clearly their intent in that episode was just to corruptly employ their powers to achieve what has been achieved.
They accused the {Enang ADUN of corruption, bt after he insisted on resigning they let him go.
In investigating the Selangor PR ADUNS for misuse of funds they seem to be telling us that they canot see the elephant in the room. But they seem to be seeing ghosts of rats running around between the elephant.
We don't need his condenmation. But what kind of advsor are you, Ramon, when your client is doing things to undermine their repotation?
Maybe Ramon can tell us what he has done to highlight to the MACC that after the BN takeover of Perak the silence over MACC charge of corruption of the two PKR ADUNS who, since then have become independents and support the BN, shows clearly their intent in that episode was just to corruptly employ their powers to achieve what has been achieved.
They accused the {Enang ADUN of corruption, bt after he insisted on resigning they let him go.
In investigating the Selangor PR ADUNS for misuse of funds they seem to be telling us that they canot see the elephant in the room. But they seem to be seeing ghosts of rats running around between the elephant.
We don't need his condenmation. But what kind of advsor are you, Ramon, when your client is doing things to undermine their repotation?
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written by chong 2, July 21, 2009
written by chong 2, July 21, 2009
Boths Tan Srees, Ramon and Robert are businessmen. Right, they are there as window dressing for UMNO and for personal business gain. They will never do anything right for the Rakyat but only for themselves. The N.S. camp has many teenages died, the police lock up has many like Kugan died and now the MACC also got BLOOD in their hands. Nobody from the relevant agencies is responsible. What have both the Tan Srees done thus far, NONE. Please resign.
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written by escape, July 21, 2009
written by escape, July 21, 2009
Tan Sri, people like you, Soi Lek and many others are all blinded by positions. Give you all a small position without power, you all will kow tow and lose all your intelligence. As for you, talk No.1, write No.1 now we know hypocrate also No.1. POODAH!
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written by metta, July 21, 2009
written by metta, July 21, 2009
Navaratnam said "... some fellow advisers ... have indicated they may quit their appointed posts to protest the methods in which witnesses are questioned for information." He also said there's "no point in resigning" and that he will stay on.
Well, Mr Navaratnam, your fellow advisers are resigning for the WRONG reason and you are staying on for the WRONG reason. Your fellow advisers should resign in protest against the BN's use of the MACC as a POLITICAL WEAPON against the Pakatan Rakyat which culminates in the death of Teoh Beng Hock. If they had not used it as a political weapon, the death would not had happened. If you are only looking at the "methods of interrogation", you are already looking at the wrong place.
And by the way, Mr Navaratnam, you should resign for the same reason stated above.
Well, Mr Navaratnam, your fellow advisers are resigning for the WRONG reason and you are staying on for the WRONG reason. Your fellow advisers should resign in protest against the BN's use of the MACC as a POLITICAL WEAPON against the Pakatan Rakyat which culminates in the death of Teoh Beng Hock. If they had not used it as a political weapon, the death would not had happened. If you are only looking at the "methods of interrogation", you are already looking at the wrong place.
And by the way, Mr Navaratnam, you should resign for the same reason stated above.
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written by BiasMACC, July 21, 2009
written by BiasMACC, July 21, 2009
wht kind of country is this???? PKFZ & toyo & submarine case & linkam all walk free.
Innocent ppl lock up & jail & ISA & die. Where is the Justice? Real shame.
Innocent ppl lock up & jail & ISA & die. Where is the Justice? Real shame.
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written by *&^%^%&, July 21, 2009
written by *&^%^%&, July 21, 2009
Dear now not so eminent members of MACC advisory boards.
1. Many of you were distinguished members of the civil service. Unfortunately, the tidak apa attitude, dont rock the boat, protect the boss, no new initiative attitude of the civil service willl not help change MACC. You are part of the boys.
2. You have lent your names and reputation to help Badawi repackaged the soiled and tarnished ACA, for your ego and allowances. I think you have realised by now that you have got the shorter end of the trade. Your reputations are in tatters. Your life time of effort gone.
3. There is only one way to salvage whatever your reputation is left. Do the honourable thing like a gentlemen you still are. We dont expect any Japanese honour, though.
Member of the Malaysian Rakyat.
1. Many of you were distinguished members of the civil service. Unfortunately, the tidak apa attitude, dont rock the boat, protect the boss, no new initiative attitude of the civil service willl not help change MACC. You are part of the boys.
2. You have lent your names and reputation to help Badawi repackaged the soiled and tarnished ACA, for your ego and allowances. I think you have realised by now that you have got the shorter end of the trade. Your reputations are in tatters. Your life time of effort gone.
3. There is only one way to salvage whatever your reputation is left. Do the honourable thing like a gentlemen you still are. We dont expect any Japanese honour, though.
Member of the Malaysian Rakyat.
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written by X-b.END, July 21, 2009
written by X-b.END, July 21, 2009
Now..u sure u guys r not just appointed advisors only ah...I thought the Chief Advisors are UMNO goons. No point lah..just get your salary while taking instruction from your actual Chief Advisors, UMNO. Seen as advisor but dapat gaji buta. Just nominee.
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written by Davy Crockett, July 21, 2009
written by Davy Crockett, July 21, 2009
MACC,Where is your priority & independance??.2 PKR ADUN & 1 DAP who resigned suddenly paving way for BN to takeover Perak stinks so much,yet no urgency to investigate.Emulating HK ICAC integrity & independance?.Not even close.
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written by A concern Malaysian, July 21, 2009
written by A concern Malaysian, July 21, 2009
Quitting is a natural course of action, for any man with a sense of honour to do. They have failed the trust of the public they should know what to do. Hope these advisors are honourable to speak out on the biggest set-back in MACC. The public though have seen enough of how MACC operates, is pretty furious why the concentration on cows and micro matters and not on the obvious macro matters affecting the country. I think the cost of operating MACC incurred is more than the "micro" matters which they are concentrating. Remember, it is the tax payer monies that MACC is being financed. Obviously, there must be some sense of accountability to the public needed here.
Which should be the MACC KPI ? :
1. "Corruption money recovered by MACC (Macro matters) - MACC operating cost = Public Fund which MACC Recovered for the Public benefits"
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2. "Corruption money recovered by MACC (Micro matters)- MACC operating cost = Additional tax payer which MACC help to spent"
Which should be the MACC KPI ? :
1. "Corruption money recovered by MACC (Macro matters) - MACC operating cost = Public Fund which MACC Recovered for the Public benefits"
or
2. "Corruption money recovered by MACC (Micro matters)- MACC operating cost = Additional tax payer which MACC help to spent"
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written by honkie, July 21, 2009
written by honkie, July 21, 2009
Remember the Star headline, “Good start, says Hong Kong’s ICAC”, quoting the deputy commissioner and head of operations of Hong Kong’s Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) Daniel Li for the creation of the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) officially launched by the Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.
I wonder if ICAC taught MACC their interrogation techniques. Maybe the Hong Kong people can ask their government how many people had died " quietly"under ICAC interrogation. It will be interesting to see how much ICAC had taught our MACC.
I wonder if ICAC taught MACC their interrogation techniques. Maybe the Hong Kong people can ask their government how many people had died " quietly"under ICAC interrogation. It will be interesting to see how much ICAC had taught our MACC.
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written by analysis, July 21, 2009
written by analysis, July 21, 2009
MACC should be desolve for good and an independence force comprising of new faces be formed.
Integrity and reputation that already badly tarnish may take many centuries to recover. To maintain current force, will cost plenty of tax payer monies for rebranding and this again will anger rakyat.
Public confidence and perception are hard to change.
The funny thing is, why the handphone being kept by MACC until being asked. If there any other things that being hide and will produce only when ask. Where is honesty, for nation and rakyat attitude?
Integrity and reputation that already badly tarnish may take many centuries to recover. To maintain current force, will cost plenty of tax payer monies for rebranding and this again will anger rakyat.
Public confidence and perception are hard to change.
The funny thing is, why the handphone being kept by MACC until being asked. If there any other things that being hide and will produce only when ask. Where is honesty, for nation and rakyat attitude?
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written by think, July 21, 2009
written by think, July 21, 2009
The fact of the matter is that MACC, its people and its board of advisors must be dismissed. The law must be repealed. These are all flawed. We need do to a reset. We have been palmed a shoddy good by Badawi. There is no reason why Najib should continue. Ah, yeah. The Minister of Law as he called himself has to bear a big part of the fiasco. We owe this to our children to fix this. But first, hang the murderer or murderers.
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written by hurricanemax, July 21, 2009
written by hurricanemax, July 21, 2009
navaratnam and gang, you should at least have some honour and dignity.
You are nothing but mere names in macc. You have no say in anything. You are like all of us, having absolutely NO idea of whats happening inside yet another shady/corrupted/racist org. You cannot change a thing...
Have a sense of pride. Not for yourself but for your family. RESIGN!
You are nothing but mere names in macc. You have no say in anything. You are like all of us, having absolutely NO idea of whats happening inside yet another shady/corrupted/racist org. You cannot change a thing...
Have a sense of pride. Not for yourself but for your family. RESIGN!
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