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I hope the residents of Kg Buah Bala will sleep on the streets.... enough is enough, we are sick of your grouses.... demanding 3.5 million each??? Go to Hell

Way to go, Guan Eng. Mark of a true leader. I support you. Pure utter greed was behind all the Kampung Buah Pala controversy. A settlemet of cowherds classified as UNESCO heritage territory? What a sick joke! Some people will demand a pound of bones if you give them even an ounce of flesh! The only people milking the cows and conniving with the cowherds are the racist UMNO-dominated BN federal government. I wouldn't be surprised HINDRAF gets themselves drafted in to topple the Pakatan Rakyat in Penang. Way to go, Guan Eng. I support you.

I agreed with the CM. The residents have gone too much. They let people with certain interests to manipulate their emotions. Now they don't have anything & they blame it on the the current state government. stupid people.

They want a RM3.5m house each? If I were them, I would ask for a RM35m house so I could compete with the Toyol guy!

These illegal squatters think that the whole world owe them a living!

Guan Eng, please wash your hands once and for all. You have done your best already!

Maybe Samy 'Toll' Vellu could put up a toll to collect the millions for them!

yes,Guan Eng,you have did ur best.JUST BLAME THAT IDIOT GERAKAN!

Well done guan eng. just leave these residents with the developer. it did not happen during your watch. RM 3.5 mil is broad daylight robbery by residents. just follow Court decision and allow the developer to evict them. Its within the law.

Enough for every one's need but not enough for every one's greed.

If you are homeless why not come stay at my Rosmah Bini Puaka website? It's a state-of-the-art mansion built on Prime Minister's Office pmo.gov.my. More luxurious than Hantu ToyoLand's Palace.

damn if you do damn if you dont. just leave them alone with the bn vultures

Villages were made squatters by the previous state government. Being squatters and yet given a 2-storey terraced house worth RM500k each is a stunning precedence set by the PR state government. I shall quit my fried koaw teow hawker stall and find a piece of land in Penang to squat, hopefully I if not my children or grandchildren will make a fortune in future. (off course that will not be fulfilled if BN is back in power)

Whatever sympathy the people had for Hindraf and the Kg Buah Pala residents vanished overnight.
Com'on you residents, don't be too much otherwise you end up with nothing.

I am an Indian but feel disgusted at the action of those Kampung Buah Pala residents. I don't expect you to do anything more then this. But please be careful and sensitive. You still have our support.

The greed of these Kampung Buah Pala residents are unbecoming and now losing the sympathy and support of fellow Malaysians. LGE has done his best I think he should move on to more pressing issues in the state than pandering to these bunch of" mic inspired" greedy assholes! Let "semi value" and mic have the honor of getting their RM3.5million each! And I hope stupid moronic semi value will not back out after talking so big!

I guess what the CM does is right, they already offer the best solution and each of them is given a double storey house worth at least RM30ok, what else they want?

I myself even after working for almost 23 years only now staying in a double storey house cost RM150k.

Just let them be after all they have financial backing from MIC whom are wiling to given them each RM139k cash from the total RM3.2 millions. I think they are more happy to hug with them the money in RM10 denomination rather then a double storey house.

Thats the way to go Guan Eng. I have slogged for years and gone to university and di my masters degree and worked for 30 years, I also don't have RM3.5 million to take care of my family.... you have done more than your share, nobody in Penang will blame you!

In that case let the residents deal directly with the developer. Maybe they each can squeeze a boutique bungalow worth from the developer instead of a D/S link.

LGE, these people are not sincere in wanting your help, & I don't think penangites do support their unreasonable demand. They are playing into the hands of BN, the court has decided & you better follow the law.

LGE, you are correct to wash your hand off this. These villagers that are squatting on land not belonging to them have the courage to turn down an offer of a 2 storey terrace house is mind boggling. If they are holding for the 3 Million ringgit compensation, please reserve me a spot there so that I can go squatting there for my 3 millions.

Obviously, Hindraf is responsible and you wonder what type of leadership is running that organization. The villagers will no longer have my support if they continue to insist on 3 million compensation.

The greed of man knows no bounds exemplified.

Enough of this nonsense. They are squatters. They should leave. Have they no shame? Are they beggars trying to benefit from the sympathy of the public? Rubbish.

I had sympathy for those Buah Pala residents at first but now I have lost all respect for them. Yes pakatan made a mistake with their promise but they had since offered an alternative solution. Can't those greedy people at Buah Pala just stop their aggressive stance and understand that they had no right in Buah Pala from the very beginning? Their houses there are illegal for goodness sake. I feel like vomiting every time I see that sarcastic imbecile(what's his name again?) from BP make stupid comments on the TV threatening the CM/State Gov. Now good luck and good riddance to them...

Certain kind of people are just like that. You give them an inch, they want a foot.

If agree, vote +

LGE I agreed and give full support to you, these villagers are getting wild with their excessive demand, you have done your part and used up your precious times on this single issue. I believe even though if you agreed to pay them 3.5millions per family, they will never satisfied and they will come up with new demand again, mainly these villagers are used and stirred up by MIC behind them, and these people preferred to be used by these idiot(MIC). now let them go and face their own music, and see what MIC could help them.

well done Guan Eng. That's the best way to deal with people who think only of themselves and don't have the capacity to be grateful for what others do for them. You give them RM3.5 million each, they'll come back and claim RM35 million

the residents are fool. no wonder Maika is so successful in sucking monies from them.

Why should penangnites suffers as a result of 24 families? Go and solve it up with UMNO and cronies. for your 3.5millions. it is not LGE but UMNO cronies, the root of your problems.

so, it is 3.5mil each or nothings. I believe it will be the later.

LGE, we support u 100%

The residents there just proved that they are greedy opportunist. What the developer offers is already the best deal compare to other similar folks in the island. Their greed will be their fall if they continue to demand more. The developer can counter sue them for purposely delaying the project development and for sure they will win and the resident in the end will have to pay for the losses incur to developer. For the fact this situation actually happened before in the Penang

I think some invisible hand are doing the trick right now to frustrate LGE to put him in a bad light so that they can rise up to champion those 'victims'. Your guess is as good as mine as to whom these people are?!
That's the way to go LGE. Serve them right for refusing an honest gesture.

Hmmmmm.....RM3.5 million each. Maybe that's a tad too much. I guess, Guan Eng is right and sane enough to wash his hands out or else it becomes free for all buffet of charging 3.5mil for a double storey house in every opportunity that comes next. Where is MIC and their promised 3.5mil by the way?

I suggest they go Perak and squat there for the next 10 years, then they get free land.

This is what happens when you over play a winning hand. Kampung Buah Pala residents, should think with their buah kepala long and hard before making silly demands. Guan Eng its time to bail out there is nothing else you can do

Penang govt giving RM500k to these villagers is darn crazy! For the KBP residents to reject the offer is darn darn crazy!! These ungrateful residents should have their heads examined. What a greedy bunch.

CM, they are demanding total indemnity from the state Gomen. Yes, the right to raise COW at such location. 1st , they want house and then land to raise cows and asked for 3,000 sq ft house because they have 8 children! Hey! the low cost house is only 700sq ft! I believe you have doen what you should and could have done. Let the new owner plays his game!

I saw the short interview by one of their spokeperson on NTV7 news. Very arrogant lah. "when you buy a house, do you sign before seeing the house? you don't right". Wah lau eh. Banyak cantik, like they own the land and they are buying the house. Another lady, "ini tanah kami, memang kami tak akan pindah". Since when it is their property? What rule of law is that lar? MIC, can explain kar since you guys are the "not so invisible hand behind"?

When my parents were evicted by BN government, we were not compensated a single cent then. TOL land is only temporary. We were also not allocated a low cost house.

There is no ifs and buts, either the villagers accept in totality of the lastest offer by the developers or refuse it outright. It is quite apparent the greed of these illegal squatters are showing glaringly showing…it is a blooming joke, they act tough when they really have no ground to stand on. These illegal settlers should be thankful they have a people friendly PAKATAN administration....it appears there is little choice left...
Take it or loose all!

This is what happen when people are greedy. In my years of working and slogging, I have never seen rm 500,000 in my hand. Tell me a place to squat and hopefully in 10 years I will get something.

The villagers' demand have become excessive. Instigated by Hindraf and MIC no doubt. Bron on the bulldozers!

Greed and BN sinister hand at work. Now they are scrwed - who will give RM 3.5M to the families - it is very ridiculous.

Now the people who instigate have to answer for it and the losers are always the naive people maniplated by BN politics.

Koh Tsu Koon should advice the Kg Buah Pala Residents to accept the offer and earn respect from Penangites. This will hopefully WIN some support from Penangites for Gerakan.

Remember a double storey house can be worth at least RM 200,000 in Penang! Stupid People!

yes, yb lge, you have done your best. I am an Indian and am ashamed to be called one now after the unreasonable demands made by these insane people. WAY TO GO LGE

The whole Kg.Buah Pala issue has been played up and exploited by political party
like MIC and Hindraf,to the detrimental of Kg.Buah Pala residents.In the first place,
who is this guy T.Mohan from MIC,out of nowhere he appears offering RM3.2million
to buy the land back from the current owner..dont talk tough lah,just pay back to the
poor INdians their savings invested in Maika Holding and not forgetting,the piece of
land at Bandar Utama hijacked from the Tamil School.Take your show somewhere else,
the Penang people are not as gullible as the poor,honest,illeterate estate Indians.

As to Hindraf,please do not turn this issue into a race issue when it is a land issue.
The Kg.Buah Pala land was sold during the tenure when Tan Sri Kho was the CM.
When PR won the election in Mar 2008,the new owner quickly,hastely paid the difference
of the Sales and Purchase Price.When the full purchased amount has been paid,what
do you expect the new state Govt.who just took office for less than 3 months to do...
CM LGE state Govt.has no choice but to execute the transfer of the land,knowingly or
otherwise.

The CM,LGE and his 2 dep.CM have tried their best to get the best deal from the developer
for Kg.Buah Pala residents.When the developer has agreed to provide the 21 families with
a double storey house,the resident as first say,there are now 60 families instead of 21.
Then the tune change that they should be paid the land value eqv.to RM3.5million per family.
To the 21 families of Kg.Buah Pala,do not be made a pawn by outsiders,you can ask for more
details of the 2 storey house finishing,be reasonable in your request and I am sure YB LGE
will hear you out.But if the goal post keeps on changing,all of you will lose out everything and
neither MIC nor Hindraf can help you..believe me,MIC is just trying to score brownie points only
and is run by Thenga Mandai leaders.

Enough of this nonsense. They are squatters. They should leave. Have they no shame? Are they beggars trying to benefit from the sympathy of the public? Rubbish.

If anyone can give them Kampung Buah Pala Residents RM3.5 millions each in compensations let them do it. Maybe Hindraf and MIC , Gerakan and UMNO can do it.
Guan Eng you did right. Let BN do it if they can.

The villagers were being misled and instigated by outside elements or simply being wildly greedy. They were offered an exceptianly good compensation and yet they rejected it. Instead they wanted to become 3.5 million worth millionaires. Now, the opportunity of owning a 500k double storey house is gone. They have only themselves to blame. CM has tried his best for them but they never appreciate it.

This is absurd! RM3.5 million for a wooden house with a miserable cowshed? What heritage site? Indians should be happy that the State government manage to rid the state of its last Indian cowshed village and put everyone in a double storey semi-D, which is much much much better than what most Penangites are living in! Please la.. wake up! You guys - instigated by MCA/HINDRAF clowns - think that the Penang State government is a fool? Wake up! If you live in Singapore, bulldozers would have flattened the entire village at night leaving you guys on the streets...! Enough is enough!

Basically those residents in Buah Pala has been ill advised by others for their own political gain. I hope these residents will think wisely for themselves.

Congratulation Guan Eng. This is the way to go. The state can only offer so much and if they dont accept, it is just too bad.

To all Pulau Buah Pala residents.Do look around the whole of Malaysia right from the day of independence up till to-day, whether there has been any people living in a house built on state
land being compensated with the value of a double storey terrace house in Penang which worth about
RM 400,00.00 .
If you think that the British colonial government has given you the ownership of the land, then show up your documentary evidence to lay your claim (presumably you are the righful descendent of the rightful owner).
If you feel that the vacant land you are staying in will be granted with heritage status by UNESCO, I would say you would not be. Please refer to the pre-requisite conditions for applying for heritage status from UNESCO. Do you cherish the so called historical aspect of the land ? So much so that you upkeep it properly to live up to its expectation.
If you seriously think that your case entitles you to a RM3.50 million (even half of it) compensation, I say right in front of you that you are a day dreamer. Or someone has said it to you then he is a liar.
I feel that if don't grasp the offer now you only have youerself to be blame.
You may say PR has promised you compensation up to your satisfaction ,but now it could not materialise the promise, you feel that you are being cheated. But how about BN government which has promised all Malaysians all the goodies for 52 years, yet how many of its promises have been materialised.
Last but not the least, personally I envy the offer of a double storey terrace house in Pneng inreturn for a wooden house in TOL.

Thank U all kampung buah pala resident no more headache for LGE. Now you can ask semi gila velu for 3.5 million. Want me to teach you play chess?

Let's be very clear. The Buah Pala residents must not allow themselves to be manipulated by politicians and turned into a racial issue. It is certainly not about race.

From my observation over many years I must admit that the "compensation" offered by the developer must be the most generous ever offered to squatters. In most similar cases the squatters only get a low cost flat worth RM25,000. Here each one will get a house worth a few hundred thousand ringgit!!. Consider how lucky the Buah Pala residents are. If I were you I will quickly accept the offer before it lapses.

Don't the Fools realise that they are getting a very good deal from the developers. If BN had won and form the Penang state government, Kampong Buah Pala would have been bulldozed long ago maybe with a compensation of RM20,000.00 for each family. The must be mad to think that they are going to be instant millionaires if they drag on the issue.

I don't know about you guys but my spidy sense tells me MIC (or is it Ulthanthuya...whatever) is going to bug in, probably telling the whole world DAP is not doing his job....whatnot. Or for that matter, UmNooo sticking their nose into something they shouldn't, which I highly doubt they will not. By the way, I still haven't heard what happen to the 3.5mil MIC promised?

KBP residents can go fly kite! I really pity those old folks. At least now LGE can stay focus and don't waste his time on their absurd demands.

Dear LGE, You did the right thing.
Leave these Vultures alone!!!
Enough is Enough!!!
They want your hands , Legs and now your Body.

Since the developers have obtained the relevant court order to evict them, the developers should go ahead.. Don't set precedents for squatters to demand ridiculous sums, otherwise landowners would be unfairly treated.

I hope as I write this, the squatter houses are being torn down.. throw them out, they deserve no sympathy for being so money minded and arrogant.

Hi kampung buah pala resident who teach you request 3.5 mil please lah you ask back person paid you lah , this is fair deal lah. I support LIM GUAN ENG your best CM in penang.

Real stupid Kpg Buah Pala residents. Hindraf is officially illegal and having same status as communist yet these stupid resident want them to decide their faith. Maybe they too are hindraf members. Why is the government not taking action. LGE you have done your part but 'your kind heart is treated as dog lung" They don't deserve your help anymore.

Sadly the residence of Kampung Buah Pala have no legal legs to stand on. Under the previous BN state government, the land was sold. It was a done deal. Only under the opposition state government is this case even under review. But mind you, the deal is done.

The state government can only do 2 things, either buy back the land or offer compensation. (And mind you since this is a done deal, the state government does not need to help said residence)

As the residence aren't willing to accept what the current state government has to offer, they are on their own. The state government is not obligated to compensate them in the first place.

Blame this whole incident on the previous BN government. They dug this hole and the opposition has to fix it.

ai yo!!! Never seen a group of people so greedy. Initially support you guys, ai yah!!! Now really think you guys are bodoh.

Listen to those MIC + Hindraf guys??? Better listen to me. "Hi friends of Kg Pala...maybe Hindraf /MIC can get you Istana Negara. Again cheated by the BN gang. Stupid fellas you Kg Pala.

LGE has bent backwards to help these KBP residents find a reasonable solution. All the best!

From a terraced house, the residents added on a 2.4 acre land next door to rear cows. Now they want RM3.5 million each... this is GREED and STUPIDITY all in one! LGE, go focus on getting more FDI and create more jobs lah... we will not blame you coz you have done what you possibly could.

Hi , Kampung Buah Pala resident you should ask Koh Sue Khoon to help 23 resident to paid 3.5 mil each 41 family because koh sold your land please ask him paid you back lah.

Hindraf have already got RM5 million for each Malaysian Indian, by suing the British government?
The two brothers are now in London to finalise the distribution of the monies to each and every Malaysian Indian?

Then, they should start distributing the monies first to Kg Buah Pala folks.
The residents then do not have to beg from anyone.

Are the famous two brothers doing it now?

And is MIC also helping?

Lets see how the culprits who were a party to signing off the land to the co-operative, come foward to help the residents. These are the buggers who love to talk big but not come forward to appeal from the BN government at Federal level for help. So much for their care for the Indians in Malaysia.

Don't even dream of getting 3.5 mil compensation from developer.

Buy yourself Mega jackpot sport toto toemorrow...now almost hit to 3.2 mil already....

I totally agree with Lim Guan Eng's decision. These people will not stand a chance at the courts as no law will protect squatters. And yet, they are being used as the political tool by certain parties. Greed is blind.

Check it out in Sungai Siput during "sam pui milo"reign.What did the Indian achieve? Such good afford Buah Pala resident don,t appreciate.CM remember to wash your hand with a golden colour basin.

Kampung Buah Pala should learn to appreciate. If you all are still under BN, you all are thrown into the sea without a word. Do u think ur Hindraf and MIC dare to say anything if is still under BN? they all will arrested under ISA . Is absurd to even dare to image to request for 3.5million per house, now don't get a house so see what you all wan now?Dear LGE, just do what you need to do show how we gonna rule Penang and be successful compare to other BN's states

Demand for RM3.5 mils are STUPID, DAMN STUPID, furiously STUPID.
Why? Because Lembaga Hasil Dalam Negeri (LHDN) will after those Kampung Buah Pala people a$$ for the sudden income. Calculate the rate, it will cost them as least RM 1 million tax. Oh, those KBP people are not King Toyol, that get a free clearance from LHDN and free licensed from MACC.

To Resident of Kampung Buah Pala,

Take the offer from Penang Government. Then ask your Hindraf brother to claim for you the 3.2M offer by MIC brother. Now you got house and capital and can start a new life.

But only if Hindraf SINCERE to help you and MIC GENUINE willing to pay 3.2M.

At least the double storey is REAL.

I hope the offer of a free double storey double house has lapsed. That way the State or developer do not need to pay these greedy people. Let them crawl to MIC or UMNO government to get their 3.5 Million. I have a feeling that LGE will gain even more respect and votes by not submitting himself to their blackmail.

All this while, you had the negotiation power because the rakyat was behind you. We, the rakyat sympathized with your predicament because you got screwed by the previous Government.

However, when your new demand of RM 3.5 million each was raised, it showed nothing but blatant greed on your part. It is simply outrageous and ridiculous.

I'm sorry but I will no longer support a cause that uses the rakyat's support to the point of extorting money. I agree with the CM on washing his hands off this issue. He has tried his best and most surely lost some sleep thinking of solutions for all of you.

You may have lost the only golden chance of owning a home to call your own. I feel sorry and disappointed with your selfish and greedy attitude.

3.5 million compensation EACH !!!
That's a dreamy "lion opening its wide mouth".
If BN were still in control of the state, it would have brought in the FRU and ... (you know what).
And who can be sure that they are not just part of BN's ploy to wring back the lost power?

If the people of Buah Pala still wants to breed their cows and goats, they should ask for a piece of land somewhere else (eg: Seberang Perai) plus house and money which are acceptable. But they made a mistake by claiming exorbitantly. RM3.5 million each family, that was insane and unacceptable since the land is not theirs formally. This also shows that the have no interest to continue breeding those cows and goats.

It is the greed of those people who are taking advantage of LGE's attention to their welfare. We can understand why LGE is already tired to treat those people, since there are many more problems that plagued Penang, that needs to be solved as well. Continue your effort Mr. LGE, we are sure that you will continue your struggle for the sake of Penangites.

LGE. I am proud of you. You have proven to be a good leader, a good administrator. I call upon all the Buah Phala residents, don't be carried away by the agents of UBN in their tussle with the pakatan govt. UBN especially it's component party MIC has done more damage to all Buah Phala residents and when LGE becomes their saviour MIC wants to sell its new medicine to them residents. If the buah phala residents fall for this MIC crab one more time, let them go ahead because pakatan will still survive with or without their support. As I have said before, the Penang residents are not willing to scoff more taxes to ensure that the residents demand of RM3.5 million gets through.
My last say, Buah phala resients don't be too greedy. LGE is making a good decision by forcing the developer and the co'operative that is the master of the land to pay for the double storey house. What else you guys want. All parties non residents butt out from the issue. Where were you guys when the UBN govt robbed the residents of their land.

my house was demolished and i was only given a bandaraya flat to rent. why r these kampong buah pala folks given a house? not fare. i want t sue d govt.

As a citizen of malaysia, I am very much puzzled ( more of concern) by the fact that we have oil, natural gas and al other natural resources in abundant, why we cannot outperformed our neighbore countries like Singapore?

CM had try his very best to solve this kg BP issue. Lets accept those offers and start move on. LGE keep it up. support for u!

Those racist manipulator are slipping out the back door and the villagers will be left with nothing. Those stupid people does not even know who stabbed them in the back. you can see that those UMNO ass are throwing wrenches and kichen sink into the the the state Government machinery eversince they lost the election at the ignorant villagers expense. Those poor people will wake up to a bigger piece of property which is sleeping in the street. Well done Guan Eng. You did your best.

I hope the developer can quickly bring their bulldozers to flatten their land. These residents have lost the sympathy of the people.

A small group of basically not very productive and not very useful citizens trying to hold a state government to ransom.

They are not concerned about the heritage issue, dont' hoodwinked the pubic, this is extortion, they have a hidden agenda, money and politics. A double storey house in that area is valuable, 500K to 800K depending on the size and actual location. LGE leave them for you have done well. Concentrate on the the Island development. The general public in Penang is aware of the scenario.

After following this unfortunate story since it started, it is now clear that the squatters are pawns in a political game played by mic (key) and hindraf. Wake up, you squatters.....don't continue to be fools led by the nose like your cows by these opportunist politicians. They don't care about you, only about cheap publicity for themselves.
See all the posts above, nobody supports your ( squatters) greed because you have already got a good deal. Tell hindraf and mic to take a hike.
If the developer now withdraws the offer because you mob rejected it, don't come crying again and scream maginalisation. There is no easy money in this world...wake up for your own sake.

I pity the people of Kg Buah Pala who as backward (no insult intended here) kampong people are easily misled by those not so kampong people who drive beautiful cars, live in good neighbourhood, send their children to good school but work for not so nice people.

Pity those indian KBP resident.

I am hoping Jeff.Ooi could read this comment. Jeff this is what we call extreme... extreme demand and extreme behavior.... when demand is overboard we call it extreme... bear in mind JIM does not EXTREME .. Islam does not extreme...... but people in Kg Buah Pala does.

guan eng trying to help but these resident r over !!!ppl give one inch they try to demand one feet...end up they seat at street..happy all..stupid demand

Clearly, BN/MIC batu api at work and these people are really ungrateful. Tak tahu nak bersyukur as the Malays would call it. Firstly, they were given this land to park on after the British owners left. Then when BN came, they were made squatters. Now when PR government came, tried to help and even won them a nice property on prime land, they got excited and now want more.

People are fed up. Too much. Just a bunch of cowherds living off a borrowed Hollywood made name and want to screw up a performing government just because they were listening to your voices.

Hey fellas, if it were Toyol instead of LGE at the helm, you can bet your bottom that he'll bulldoze your cowshed before you could even finish pronouncing Mama Mia!... Finish..infinito..kaput..and dear Samy will be clapping his hands.

As a Penangite myself, I think the Residents of Kg Buah Pala is atrocious, terrible, evil and horrendous. I really fed up watching the news of them being higlighted anymore. They are willing to be manipulated by the stupid lawyers and the politicians behind them leading them to their grave and I dun think they realize that.

Remember GREED is a one the most unforgiven sin and all the residents of Kg Buah Pala, may your god forgive you for doing such great SIN to those who gone all the way to help you...

LGE should have come out like this much earlier but its better late than never. Its cowboy area and now LGE has come out rightfully with his guns blazing.

To get a 2 storey house in such a prime area is like striking at least the Toto Jackpot first prize of RM300,000. Why go buy lotteries? I will also shift to Panange from KL and built a small shaty hut just next to the Esplanade to stay and within months, I will be offered similar compensations...wow....what an easy way to make money and maybe even have MCA or Gerakan Youth too help me in my cause too...and probably donate 5% of my compansatioans to them too....good investment plan right?

KBP residents, take the offer and start preparations to shift cuz if not you will be left with nothing and when the bulldozers come, its even worse as the police will be there to detain you should you try to fight back. I am speaking from experience.

I've worked for 30 years & cannot even afford a house like that. Some people only know how to dig their own graves & bury themselves - with the help of BN.

When Hindraf got involved, I lost my sympathy for the Kg Pala villagers. They just got really too greedy. Classic pattern.

Well done to the CM! let them stew in the juices fermented by Hindraf/MIC.

A problem has been created.

Compromise is the key to any resolution. Any agreement signed must protect the interests of both sides. One side should not ask for more than what they are willing to give the other side.

The other option is to litigate till the cows come home at a heavy price in terms of time and money.

The residents should be able to differentiate between those who are sincerely wanting to help and those out to gain political mileage.

"The British colonial government acted as trustees, but the land was signed away back to the state" by the ancestors of the present villagers. Therefore the parties to be blamed are the previous BN government and the present villagers' parents and grandparents who signed away the trust land.

These most ungrateful villagers, instead of being thankful to LGE and his PR state government for trying so hard to help, have been blaming him (LGE). Their ancestors were stupid for signing away the trust land back to the previous government and they are equally stupid for listening to the bunch of opportunists which include Hindraf and MIC.

The fact that they are demanding their village of goats and cows be turned into a heritage site further exposes their stupidity.

Aiyoh... you think money grows on trees ah? 3.5 Million! Don't talk 3.5 million lah... how many people got RM100,000? You think you can just get free money... from taxpayers some more... the cheek of this villagers lah! Behaving just like Banyak Nakal cronies, except that they are not in the inner circle of cronies, so they try this crap. Next thing you know, they will become frogs hoping to get sympathy from Banyak Nakal or Hindraf...

my prediction, later on MIC & BN take up the role of hero, damn in some big money to help the residents, & win the support of hindraf & indian community, especially those can be easily cheated ones!

Hi Lim Guan Eng,

This is what a true leader is made of and I congratulated you for doing what is right and best in the interest of the villagers. Yet, they are not appreciative !

You get my support as you tried your best and had even bend all the way to accomodate the Kg. Buah Pala residents even at the expense of some of the Penangites who previously had been squatting on government TOL land and had to be evicted by the developer and BN without a cent of compensation.

From the events of the case, it is apparent that there are some invisible hands behind the whole issue out to discredit the PR government and in particular the MIC and Hindraf and the Penang UMNO racists.

They are out to confuse the villagers promising them heaven but retracted and keep quiet when the whole settlement falls apart.

The house value is worth RM 300,000 to RM500,000 and where on earth do one get such a windfall when the land is not in one's name.

I graduated from the local varsity in the sixties and had to struggle to save and earn every cent in order to get a decent house over my head and here the villagers are offered a reasonable compensation with the help of the PR state government and now they rejected it.

Everyone likes to have more but there is a limit to anything in life. I would love to have the RM 24 million Khir Toyol's house as well but the fact is can I afford it ?

Added to this, I wonder why Koh Tsu Koon is keeping so quiet ? Is it because after stirring the shit he expected the PR government to clean it for them.

Perhaps if the Federal government or MIC or Hindraf can offer better , then the residents can turn to them for their 3.5million demand each. Good luck to them.

If the residents only think of themselves and their cows and poultry and claim that they have stayed there for 200 years, and wish to maintain the 200 years heritage type of living pattern, their brains have to be washed clear of cow dungs!

Penang is a second most advance State in the Country. Can they deem it fair just because of them, the whole Penang development will have to set aside for their convenience?! Using UNESCO as a threat to withdraw the State's heritage status knowingly is going to kill the tourism industry and many people will be suffering jobless and lost of financial security and this is the cheapest way of politicking whereby all Penangites should reprimand!

MIC and BN low life politicians should stop all their pariah politicking and should they think of the true welfare and well beings of the State and the peoples, including those naive KBP villagers, please fuck off from the site and let the squatters make their own decisions!

A word of advice to the goofy-head cow herds, a terrace house shall need more than centuries for them to slog and save for it, still may not achieve! For 200 years being the milkmen there, they are going to upgrade to be the luxurious property owners by now, just agree with the offer, they will have become the proud owners of the terrace houses even many professional people having higher income are envying to own! How stupid to prove their low mentalities, as the hill-billies, if they continue to let their noses be hooked by those imbecile political lackeys in the guise of their leaders!

Hindraf first wanted 5 million compensation for each Malaysian Indian from British Government; then they instigated the villagers to demand 3.5 million as compensation for each house in Kampong Buah Pala. Look like Hindraf leaders are dream makers out to mislead Malaysian Indians to nowhere. Fellow Malaysian Indians must wake up to reality, these Hindraf leaders are not to be trusted.

You win some and you lose some in politics. Just do the right thing(s) and you are alright.

3.5mil for each house? I think the house owner must be thinking that they are attending the "Who want to be a million-air" show. BTW, you need to score all in order to win the cash, can you?

It's a case of low IQ and they have been manipulated to put a spanner in the works. Asking for RM 3 million plus is ridiculous. It's a pity it has to end this way for this folks but then they asked for it.

Residents of Kg. Buah Pala, I sympathize with you chaps. Opportunist are taking advantage of all of you. They have nothing to loose but you people have. To own a landed property in Penang Island especially double storey in such locality is virutally impossible for an average wage earner in Penang. But you people have the chance. Looks like you people prefer to fight it out in court. So be it. From now onwards nobody is going to give damn top what happpen to KBP it is history. After all they have done the worst having demo in UK , went to France to kill the status of our Penang Heritage status- damage has been done so what else can they do?

Perak State is offering free land for those staying 10 years and above you guy should have taken advantage of such offer. If you think those fighting for you can get you RM 3.5 million each then just dream on. Once you are a millionaire don't forget to instruct your fighters to go to France and ORDER them to reinstate my beloved Penang Island heritage status. OK

LGE shouldn't even have offered them the terrace house in the first place cos many squatters are getting nothing at all for being evicted. That's the law and all should be treated the same in the eyes of the law. What LGE has done is really a dream that's impossible and yet the rejected it?!! Those KBP morons are really STUPID but I think I should say GREEDY!!

Dear LGE, you have done all that anyone can reasonably be expected to do.

If the Kampong Buah Pala folks reject the offer, they will have to accept the consequences of their own decisions.

Let UMNO/BN play this up as much as they want. The rakyat knows you have done the best that anyone could have done.

Just change the clause to make sure that the deal will be signed without compromise. If that's the only reason that is hindering them from signing sure you can do better than now. It's simple solution. Change the clause...

Wih their current incomes, the villagers can never afford to buy the double storey houses on their own. So greedy people. Maybe influenced by UMNO members.

Who gave those simple-minded folks hope in the first place?? Right from the start, every legal avenue was against them. Like it or not, they are squatters first and last. LGE should know better than to use these 23 families to win support and votes.... to the point of even using "blackmail/threats" against the developer - something a smart leader should not use openly or freely.

It's easy to say you wash your hands off this case..... but what next??

It is interesting to know what will happen if the present Penang is still under the BN's rule and they just bull doze with the transaction. Will be an issue or everybody will accept it because it is under BN

yishan's ( August 09, 2009) comments show that he cannot distinguish between fact and fiction.

Fact 1:-
According to our National Land Code (NLC), the legal proprietor of a piece of land is the person or body registered in the land registry. It has not been disputed that "Koperasi Pegawai Kerajaan Pulau Pinang Bhd" is still the registered proprietor of the Kampong Buah Pala land.

Fact 2 :-
Our courts have decided that "Koperasi Pegawai Kerajaan Pulau Pinang Bhd" is the rightful and legal proprietor of the Kampong Buah Pala land.

Fact 3 :-
At the time the Kampong Buah Pala land was alienated to Koperasi Pegawai Kerajaan Pulau Pinang Bhd, its status was state land.

Fact 4 :-
The Kampong Buah Pala villagers were not even TOL holders at the material time the land was alienated to Koperasi Pegawai Kerajaan Pulau Pinang Bhd. The villagers themselves had claimed that the land office refused to accept the annual TOL fees when they tried to make payment. This simply means that the villagers have been illegal squatters on state land.

Fact 5 :-
The Kampong Buah Pala land was legally alienated to Koperasi Pegawai Kerajaan Pulau Pinang Bhd. The then BN state authority using powers vested to it by the NLC and state land rules approved the application by Koperasi Pegawai Kerajaan Pulau Pinang Bhd for the state land. Koperasi Pegawai Kerajaan Pulau Pinang Bhd paid the required land premium and all other fees within the stipulated time. Subsequently the Registrar of Titles were legally bound to register and issue the land title to Koperasi Pegawai Kerajaan Pulau Pinang Bhd, and which they did.
Whether the alienation by the previous BN government was proper or not is a matter of opinion, and as someone had said, "opinion is like an arsehole, everyone has one". Until the courts decide otherwise, the fact remains that the alienation was legal. It serves no purpose for people like "yishan" and others with the same thinking to continue claiming that the alienation was fraudulent and therefore illegal. Your claims are absolutely irrelevant and carry absolutely no weight.

Fiction 1 :-
The Kampong Buah Pala land was fraudulently taken from the villagers and given to Koperasi Pegawai Kerajaan Pulau Pinang Bhd. The villagers were not legal registered proprietors but were squatters on state land at the time of it's alienation to Koperasi Pegawai Kerajaan Pulau Pinang Bhd. They cannot lose what was not theirs in the first place.

Fiction 2 :
Squatters are entitled to compensation. The practice of compensating evicted squatters has always been carried out on humanitarian and political considerations, and not because of legal requirement.

Now that we are over fact and fiction let me give my opinion. The parties to be blamed are the following:-

1. The ancestors of the present Kampong Buah Pala villagers for surrendering the trust land back to the state. I gather this so-called fact from various news reports and is not verified.

2. The previous state government for alienating the land to Koperasi Pegawai Kerajaan Pulau Pinang Bhd despite knowing that there was an existing village on the land. Their act may be legal but, in my opinion, improper.

3. Agent provocateurs, especially Hindraf, MIC and some unscrupulous lawyers with their own agenda for misleading the villagers.

Finally allow me to ask everyone a simple question, hypothetical to some and real-life to others:-

You own a piece of undeveloped land which are left unattended. One day you are horrified to discover a colony of squatters on it. You ask them to leave but they tell you that they will only leave with a amount of compensation which you find excessive and unwarranted. What will you do? Will you still think of the villagers as "the poor folks of Kg Buah Pala"?

People like "yishan" should get a grip of their emotions when making comments and giving opinions. Of course they first have to be able to distinguish fact from fiction.

1. "yishan" has his points when the residents are not Squatters and the alienation was a Fraudulent on basis of ownership and price as referred by Ramasamy Deputy CM in
http://www.sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=36579
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"However, there are special circumstances for Kampung Buah Pala in that they were allowed by the original landowner to live there during the British colonial days before the land reverted to the government," he said.
"Even BN and Umno have conceded that the residents have been staying there for more than 100 years," he said.
He also noted that the previous state government had alienated the land without consulting the residents, and at an unusually low premium of RM10 per sqft.
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2. Following the Sequent of Events reported by Star July 10, 2009 http://thestar.com.my/news/sto...sec=nation
The Fraudulent on Alienation further extended by
a) 1999 or later, it should be for a Co-operative. A co-operative should mean for to solve the HOUSING problem of their members and not for a Commercial project for profit. KPKPPB is not a Co-operative!
b) In 2004, it was mentioned as NOT SUITABLE for Highrise. So, the alienation for Condo should be voided.
c) The alienation given to the "Co-operative" on August 8, 2005, required the "cooperative" to take care of the needs and welfare of the residents and the premium was to be RM6.4million.
d) The Premium started to be paid on January 2006. Meaning the "Cooperative" had agreed to the terms.
e) The offer from the Developer to the residents only come in in March 22, 2007.
e) The application and approval for discount on April 25, 2007 due to offers to residents is not valid due to point c) above.
f) the balance of Premium was paid on March 14, 2008 with the Title issued on March 27, 2008.
However, NLC Section 116 a) required building to be erected within two years from date of approval. Therefore, the alienation already expired in August 7, 2007. The offer to residence only on March 22, 2007 since its approval in August 8, 2005 had indicated that the Developer was not serious.
3. By all means, the alienation should be voided and the Land Title was issued on basis of a series of Fraudulent, and, an expired alienation. Therefore, the Title was not valid.
4. The claim that the Developer had sold the units are invalid as they need at least a Development Order to get Advertising and Sales Permit before they can sell the units.
5. The matter is clearly a scandal or conspiracy. The Alienation should by all means be lifted or voided.
6. Since the ancestors of the Residents were only given the Rights to stay and most probably not the ownership, their legal standi remains to be sorted out after sorting out the ownership of the land. Whether the Government is the Trustee is this case must be clarified or verified. NOTHING SHOULD PROCEED UNTIL THIS IS CLEAR. EXCEPT THE VOIDING OF THE ALIENATION!

Tell these stupid residents to ask RM3.5 million from MIC or Hindraf. Then rest the case. Lim has done his best. Greed has made these residents misbehave. Enough is enough. Get Hindraf and MIC to help them. Or, perhaps the former Gerakan government.

Stupid people. Think for you self. Dont be influenced by Samy Vellu insincere offer or by Hindraf. Dont forget the biggest exploiters of indians are indians. These people are out to use you for their own ends.

Lesson 101 for fools--"how to become and instant multi millionaire ?" Go build a house on any vacant land earmarked for development, then just wait for eviction notice. Cry foul, then wait for MIC or Hindraf come fight your case?

you know, a lot of people don't even dare to think of a double storey house, it's too expensive for most. sad to see the villagers instead being used by some qaurters for thier own politic agenda, and refuse the offer. hey, don't you want a better living standard for your next generation ? don you want your son keep on living in the poor village condition ? i think enough is enough, Lim has do his best, if the villagers keep on being using by BN, then just ask BN to compensate them !!

Hindraf is just another Tamil Tiger in the making, crap, they become more and more unreasonable. They suggest Indian is the most important in the world. They think Indian deserved better than the rest in Malaysia. Who care the shit about indian in kg Palia. There are more org asli, kg baru's land has been taken away and demolished. Why Indian? Let the bugger hero Hindraf help them with their own financial efforts, then everybody's life will be better at the end of the day. If Indian Malaysia insist on sticking to their tradition & cultures then I suggest they stick to their kasta in the first place.

My village got 15,000 for each house last year, everybody was happy, cause the development has set us free.

Hindraf only make indian's life in Malaysia getting more & more miserable.

when greed overcame senses.

Being offered a property; a house for that matter in exchange for the land you NEVER owned.

Heck, I wouldn't mind one myself.

These people have lost whatever sympathy they initially gained. I wouldn't be surprised if the "human barricade" are made up of mostly BN paid goons and of course, the now st*pidly desperate villagers.

A slum is not and should not be mistaken as "heritage".

You are poor for a reason.

In my honest opinion, infact, the State Gov. has found an amicable solution for them.

Conclusion of the KBP issue:- GREEDYNESS KILLED THE WHOLE OF KBP RESIDENTS.