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Ya, I am Chinese and as for the MCA crisis, who cares?

As a Malaysian Chinese, we perceive the reason why a normal citizen want to be MCA politicians because of "升官发财" means getting via politic. Generally we were concerned about MCA to protect Chinese interest but over the year we learned that MCA has never capable of doing it.
History has proven that MCA is no long relevant. Whatever happen in MCA.... is only something fun and nice to watch. See how the tradition of "丑陋的中国" or "Ugly Chinese" being play by MCA.

Talking about Tan Chai Ho, what real qualification this running dog has?
What did he contribute to Chinese comminity so far?
Other than to get rich through politic, this guy is a total dismay to all Malaysians.

Sim is living in never-never land, like MCA.

Cow-head stomping, utusan-praising, homicides, explosives, keris-waving, plundering, and an endless stream of mouthing abject platitudes are substituted by "talent shortage" in Sim's vocab. Poor sod.

Apek think this Sim was very wrong... Even without MCA, Chinese will still survive.. Chinese are known to be tough no matter where they landed. Chinese still have PKR and DAP. For Apek, the faster MCA collapsed is better for most Chinese in Malaysia. MCA had put shame to Chinese for being corrupted, sex and obedient dog to UMNO.

OTK should stay on at least until all the PKFZ culprits are jailed !!!.

The corrupted UMNO fear OTK bold action on PKFZ could one day expose their corrupted administration !!!
On the other hand, Dr Chua is much easier to be manipulate by UMNO after he had admitted his DVD act !!!
Dr Chua shall be the perfect lap dog for UMNO BN !!!
UMNO could charge Dr Chua anytime under sect.377 just like DSAI !!!

1Malaysia_2Standard !!!

The Chinese are smarter now. They see no future in MCA because MCA, which is supposed to help the Chinese, is not doing what it is supposed to do. Instead, there are lots of internal politicking, putting the people's (Chinese) interest in the backseat.

Yes, the Chinese have shifted their focus to Pakatan, as they believe the opposition has a better future than MCA.

The last time the crisis between Tan Koon Swan and Neo Yee Pan I was not a member of MCA but I was drawn in and followed many of TKS ceramahs.

Now I do not give a second look at this row. Who cares about MCA when they had not cared for us? Look at the damning revelations day by day. Why all the fighting up there. It's all for power and money for themselves only. Nothing else.

Yes everyday it is just S.O.S. - Same Old Story or Same Old Shit. It is just about their own interest and gain and not the party or the Chinese community as a whole. Josh Hong said it well - it is either a rotten apple or a sour grape. So nobody ain't give no two hoots about them folks who are manipulating the media. I have nothing against CSL - in fact I think that if he helm MCA he would show great leadership. But he has a big baggage and can he meet other leaders when his famous (or sorry infamous) screenshots are often shown. Today I have nothing better to do and i just give my two cents worth - but on other days i am not interested even to read anymore. MCA can go to the dogs for all i care and that is the attitude of most of my friends. Yes nobody give them MCA folks two hoots.

How can there be a place in globalised modern civilised society for a political party that uses tribal and primitive criteria such as racial origins (what next DNA analysis?) to aggregate political power? The MCA like all the other components of BN have missed the boat and will end up in the garbage bin of history.

Where was the MCA leadership when about a million and a half educated Chinese were forced by circumstances to emigrate to other countries?These men were busy lining their pockets and being yes men to the UMNO putras.Bright young Chinese students were denied scholarships/loans but were offered scholarships by a neighbouring country.Did they bother with the poor businessmen and give them a helping hand?.This bitterness over the years has translated into the shift in the Chinese the votes.The PR people seem to be fair

It is not far from wrong to conclude that the Chinese dont care anymore what is happening to and in MCA anymore. MCA as the biggest and most influential political party in BN after Umno is seen as an impotent and useless to the Chinese community.

It has practically no say in running the country and its leaders and postions in the Cabinet is dependent on the goodwill of Umno. It has lost all its creditibility in the eyes of the Chinese. Worst still the MCA leaders are percieved to be self serving rather than serving the interests of the Chinese community. MCA is percieved mostly to be blind, deaf and mute to wishes and problems of the Chinese community bcos it is seen as an impotent partner in BN and cant do anything about it and survives in the govt on the goodwill of Umno.

Does it matter to the Chinese if MCA no longer exist as it is percieved as not even a partner much less an equal partner in BN but as a lackey to Umno wishes. A paper kitten not even a paper tiger. It is not far fetched to extend this wouldnt be bothered attitude to BN as a whole as far as the Chinese commumity is concerned. That is why you see the Chinese community is voting for PAS when faced with a candidate from Umno but PAS must not take the Chinese community for granted esp with the kind of antics displayed by Hasan Ali and some section of PAS Youth wing. The Chinese community has had enough of being the bogeyman for what is wrong and ills our country and the failure of others

TRUE..

WHO CARES.

Mca is history. i never supported Mca.
they're a shame to chinese community since their 'creation'.
NEVER did once they speak out on our behalf.

DIE , DIE FASTER.

PLEASE.

Correct, correct, correct!

Maybe UMNO should change its name to United Malaysian National Organisation - then maybe the rakyat might support them. The day UMNO change its thinking - Malays only, MIC for Indians,MCA for Chinese,etc. You will never get the majority support of the people. Change BN for your own goodness.

Now is da time to join MCA, lots of $$$ to be made. Those big shark are busy fighting, da small fish can mk a killing.

Wei Lian. My chinese friends care less on these idiots. They are telling me that BN's reign is coming to an end. They would like to see a change in leadership.

waa..sim seems to forget..if MCA collapse..then the Chinsed still have DAP...PAS supporters club and PKR..it is only Chinese in BN will lose-lose..not the Malaysian Chinese!!

Very accurate assessment. We no longer care whether MCA survive for fall apart. The only reason I read news on MCA is to see how worse it fares, and I can only chuckle when I read the situation there is spinning out of control and heading for oblivion.

As for the percentage of Chinese supporting the Pakatan, my guess is somewhere around 90 to 95 percent. Only the party MCA party members and their family support them, and some unwillingly at that. MCA is pathetic really. It is fighting a losing war in gaining back the trust of the Chinese and it is facing internal crisis. My hunch is Ong Tee Kiat secretly does not mind at all losing the president of the party, it is a sinking ship after.

Ditto for MIC and UMNO. With people like Samy Vellu hanging around, how can the party endear itself to the Indian community. UMNO? Well....enough to say its digging its own grave every day. Why else would you think the rakyat is itching for the next general election?

The future is multi-racial, multi-ethnic parties and government.

So long MCA, MIC, UMNO....

Hello Pakatan Rakyat.

Want the Chinese to care????
....just withdraw from the BN and Be ENd of it now, or Be End of it in next GE13.

The Chinese don't want MCA to "fight" for something that actually are entitled to them as a Malaysian who faithfully pay tax annually.
They want a real MCA leader who can actually tick off the "ketuanan".

But, for the current MCA leadership, their meaning of FIGHT means:
------to fight=to beg everything or request from UMNO
----- to fight= very brave in internal fighting, but very coward in facing external bully from UMNO

Totally agree. All everyone cares is for their own personal gain. Instead of finding out what causes the defeat in the last election, they point the fingers at each others. Just when there is some hope of finding a new direction in PKFZ expose, they quickly buried it, wanting to go back to the old way of doing things.

Without change, the last election result will remain the same. MCA better wake up or be ready to face the music. None of you are as important as you think without the support of the Chinese community.

Stop bickering and show us some result please.

It is inevitable to see that MCA is going downhill whoever wins in the coming EGM meeting. Based on the sentiments from the ground,The Malaysian Chinese are not against MCA but they have not fulfilled their
mission to fight for the rights of other races under the Malaysian Constitution.

As what the rakyat see the picture for the future, racial sentiments no longer workable in Malaysia
and we should shoulder the responsibility to uplift the standard of living for all Malaysians whether they are Kadazans, Ibans and all others under the Malaysian sun. Change is the ultimate objective if MCA UMNO,MIC,PBS want to survive in the next election.

Rita Sim is right on the button on the Chinese & Indian support for BN component parties be it MCA, MIC, Gerakan. The internal squabbles within the BN component parties do not arouse an interest at all as far as the non-malay electrorates are concerned. They can fight all they like because they do not represent the voices of those who are concerned with how this nation is being governed!!

Chinese Malaysians don't care what happens to the MCA because they have seen how fat the leaders of the MCA have grown over the years at the expense of the sweat and toils of the rakyat. They have seen how self-serving these leaders have been.

UMNO shouldn't even try to win over Chinese Malaysian voters because they have also seen how much worse UMNO leaders are than the MCA leaders. In fact UMNO shouldn't even try to win over any Malaysian because we have had enough of your double-talk, abuse of power and corrupt practices that has cost us and our children a better and brighter future.

It is time that we put an end to all race-based political parties, particularly those whose leaders have been self-serving. It is time to put an end to UMNO, MCA and MIC. Their leaders have plundered the nation for far too long at the expense of our children and our future.

WHO CARE ?
They are very BRAVE to fight among themself: when facing the bully from outside(UMNO), they are COWARD(tortoise hiding head inside the shell).

They are not fighting for REFORM agenda, but fighting for the post....so WHO CARE??

Yes, who cares?

Rightly said. Most chinese have given up on the BN, not just the MCA. UMNO vcan attempt to go direct to the chinese, but please bring along big angpow and we will lend you opuir ears. That will be all, not our votes, you can bet.

Until and unless UMNO reforms itself ( a totally unrecognised UMNO from today, don't even hope to get chinese support. That change will have to included changes in governance and that is a very tall order which UMNO cannot achieve.

We are talking about freeingnthe institutions and we want to see it happned in front of our eyes.

Can UMNO return Malaysia to Malaysians? Can UMNO de-UMNOise the civil service. Can the police and MACC be truly fair? Can the Secretary Generals of the many ministries s be debrief so that they are Malaysians again instead of being malays or worse still, UMNO members?


Everything is wrong with governance in Malaysia and it is all the result of the UMNO-isation and Malay-isation of everything in Malaysia, no thanks to Mahatir and when Mukhriz was appointed as deputy minister, at least additional 30% of the Chinese fence sitters walk over to the Pakatan.

So, the more you try to play dirty by using the judiciary, the MACC n the police to victimize the Pakatan, the more we are with Pakatan. For example in Perak, after BN robbed Pakatan, there is no longer a chinese, including those who are members of BN component parties, who still support BN. They are either Pakatan supporters or fencesitters.

We are going for broke, we are with Pakatan now.

The Most Corrupted Association can close shop now for what i care. It really make no difference in my daily life. With or without the Most Corrupted Association my vote will definitely goes to Pakatan Rakyat.

really no 1 cares on issues related to MCA ar...!!! Comments on this article also "sangat kurang" hah.

Dun forget MCA has RM2 Billion of fixed assets. The leader are fighting for the assets.

MCA was a joke and is still a joke, and the joke is getting less funny by the day, to the point of being boring and tasteless.
MCA is supposed to look after the interest of Malaysian Chinese but the leaders are self serving megalomaniac and dictatorial. As though this is not bad enough, now they got a pornstar jousting for power, and he seems to have substantial supporters for a tainted character like him. All these reflect the kind of intellectual mentality of its leaders and members in MCA.
The party as a whole is an insult to decent Malaysian Chinese, it is better for MCA to go the way of dinosaur and be extinct, no decent Malaysian Chinese is going to lose any sleep or shed any tears over the demise of MCA. Stop insulting the Malaysian Chinese!

MCA can never excel under the thumb of UMNO. With Ong or Chua, it does not matter.
Many older generations who are die hard supporters of MCA are slowly diminishing.

I think DAP and PR is doing a much better job than BN and MCA. PR does delivery results.
At least the police is checking corruption involve RM120.00 against PR. Just not the zillions against BN.

For my future and future of my kids. DAP and PR is difinitely my choice.

Of course Tan Chai Ho will help CSL.
The "staint" Tan Chai Ho wasn't caught with his mistress....pity the wife, Mrs. Tan....one humble lady who has to swallow it all.

I am a Chinese. But I will not vote for MCA just because they are "representing" Chinese.
I will vote for anyone that works in my interest. Be it PAS, UMNO, or MIC.

Dude, what's the difference? I'm going for the other party anyway. Is it so hard a clue for these MCA clowns?

MCA and MIC were sincerely championing and helping their respective races those days. Now all for selfish interests. Only hope is Gerakan is they are brave to stand up, that provided the president should be ignored. Umno still has its strong support for obvious reason. Tough road ahead...

umno is the source of the problem. Yet UMNO says it is setting up the Indian and Chinese unit to reach out to the Chinese and the Indian. It is infact adding more problems with the already insurmountable table problems. It is umno, the corrupt evil regime, period

I care about OTK to win the EGM at least. If next time UMNO still not awake, OTK could make the decision to break MCA from sinking BN alliance... The only way for BN to survice is via internal revolution. Bring those corrupted one to justice... but that's probably impossible, becaue that means almost all UMNO leaders will have go to jail... :O

Well, if OTK wins and can clean up MCA, those who currently supports Chai gets sweep away, I think many Chinese will assess MCA differently and MCA still gets the chance to gain back suport from Chinese, slowly, though not easy. But if the old camp group gets their way and OTK is out, I can see that MCA can say bye-bye to voters.

Hey,I am a Chinese and do care for MCA not because I love the party,
but I dont want that tainted,dirty Dep.President to be President of MCA
and claiming to represent the Chinese.His questionable leadership is meant
for the gutters and his supporters like Tan Chai HO and the 2 idiotic clowns
are birds of feathers,who flock together...

Take the advice of Tun Dr.Mahathir.Chua Soi Lek,intergrity is built over 20 years
but lost in 5 minutes, when you were caught with your pants down.Just get lost
from public life and please dont claim to represent the Chinese,you are not qualified.

Look back last 50 years what MCA contributes to Chinese community? Fom there you can feel why chinese no care to MCA.

MCA,MCA,MCA.....what a pity that this so called Chinese's representative party has evolved to one that is so pathetic! Mature and real political party usually would go from strenght to strength as the party mature and progresses. What is happening now to MCA is really its own doing over the years! That the party leaders really dont subcribe to the original party's real struggles ie enhancing,promoting and advancement of the chinese community's rights etc...Past leaders have shown over and over again that their personal interests are more important than the community they claimed to represent and protect.So here we are today almost stripped of our fundamental rights from education to government contracts opportunites and many others which are so hurtful and outright demoralising to the community because of MCA's leaders averse to UMNO over domineering of BN government over all these years.No single Chinese with an ounce of brain would support MCA/BN that discriminate them in every fields of life in the country.Where got logic la ? One dont vote and support a system that in turn bites and discriminates you.

We are already the 3rd and 4th generation of the community since independent and are we seeing lesser discrimination towards us and our children from the BN government right up today? Honestly ask ourselves this simple question? Not that we love BN less but PR is worth a gamble to try our the CHANGE PR is advocating for the benefits of ALL Malaysians.What have we got to loose? We have been discriminate by BN government left,right and centre for all these years and what can PR do that can be worst off from BN? This country will always be a 3rd World Standard until we ALL Malaysians woke up and accept the fact that the BN system of governing this country is outdated and retrogressing and a total CHANGE and overhaul of the political system is urgently required now.And MCA,sorry la,time for you to rest and let others a chance to rule.

Sayornara!!

who cares. every time i look at mca leader's face i feel like want to vomit. same texture since Lee Sam Choon's days.

As a Malaysian, I think OTK has got a job to fulfill. I think many refuse to see that he is trying to salvage some thing which his 2 predecessors had caused. Looking at his actions on PKFZ and at his Ministry, he had indeed taken some actions. Many comments thrown in here are just results of frustration, which I don't really want to condemn, having seen the actions of MCA over the past 25 years. I am not a member of any party but I do feel that OTK is trying very hard to redeem MCA. With CSL and gang, MCA will be buried ib GE13!

I do care whether MCA collapses or not, and judging by the comments here, many others do too. We are all hoping that MCA does collapse, so that the remaining 15% that Sim speaks of will not be able to support this UMNO branch anymore.

Sim, however, worries that should MCA collapse, the Chinese community would be in a “lose-lose” situation.

Dear Sim,

It doesnt take a think tank to figure it out. Its pretty obvious! The chinese community now are Malaysian communities. A multi racial party would be the way to the road of success and the recovery of the Malaysian Identity. Would it be MCA? Um...no! MIC....duh! Its B ENd! They al sing the same anthem of the old guardsmen. Its a new era.
People want change and it seems that things are changing with PR/PKR/PAS party held states. It is not the ideal but at least they try to make things work and change. They are new but movin. Rather then old and stayin.
Regards to al people celebrating Ari Raya! Selamat berjalan dan ber mesra dgn keluarga anda!

Hello John,
You said,"I care about OTK to win the EGM at least." in your comment.
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I hope you are right.
But I think the following will happen in view of the PKFZ....and of how a show must end...

OTK will lose, but he will let the party go for a re-election again. After that an intervention from UMNO will result in a third guy being elected as president.

so, WHO CARE? Umno cares.........

The only reason I can think of why people like Soi Lek and Tee Keat are battling it out for control of MCA is that the party is filthy rich. I believe MCA has more than RM4 billion stashed away somewhere, although the treasurer admits to only RM2 billion+... as the party funds are accessible only to the president and the treasurer, imagine what one can do with so much in cash assets! Let's get real. Nobody gives a flying $#@! for the Chinese... or the Malays... or the Indians. After 52 years of Umno/BN misrule, it's all about the money when it comes to politics - at least for the old guard politicians.

Poor MCA... with such a lousy think tank, who needs enemies?

OMG...you guys took this long to figure this out...!!??

another probable statistics is 99% of chinese youths below 30 is pro opposition...

take that MCA!!

The article is spot on, except for Sim's remarks. I absolutely do NOT believe or TRUST the MCA to take care of our well being (and by extension, Malaysians' in general); they only take care of their own well being i.e. their pockets. I feel strongly too that joining MCA is essentially a real 'skim cepat kaya' - You will get rich but at who's expense? Hint: Think PKFZ. Make your own conclusions.

MCA today is definitely no longer the same MCA as that of the days of Tun Tan Cheng Lock..... Probably turn in his grave if he can see the current state of the party as it is now.

At the end of the day, regardless of whether it's led by the jet-set Ong fellow or the video star Chua fellow, I don't really give a bloody damn! And I can safely say, I am not alone.

MCA = Make Chinese Angry~~~!!!

KAN...
Gerakan is worse off because Koh Tsu Koon is a more loyal poodle to UMNO than OTK...
UMNO, MCA, MIC, Gerakan, SUPP, PPP...... other BN component parties are irrelevant...

Dear Rita Sim,

Chinese MAlaysians will not be in a lose-lose situation. Lose-lose is only to MCA & MCA Chinese.

All these years, time has proven that Chinese MAlaysians have the abililty to adapt to a new situation to find success. So we don't need so called protection from MCA !

Now, you can buzz off and stop telling us about the lose-lose idea as we, the Chinese Malaysians, do not want to accept to be UMNO's dog !

here is a taught i am throwing at the Chinese and Malaysians in general.

The current wave of conservative Muslims gaining momentum and umno's general bending down for them is a direct effect of the weakening of the non Malay support towards BN. To garner enough votes for the next elections, they either need to woo more conservative Muslims that make the bulk of the rural areas of Malaysia or get PAS or part of PAS to join them. In other words your actions indirectly screwed the more liberal Malaysians by pushing them back to a wall... which eventually in the future you your self will feel the heat. Ever notice that the past 3 months of hot topics are all related to the thing i just mention?

Now the irony is that voting for pakatan does not really help either, cause of PAS. They are a mistake of a political party being that the use of religion in politics should never had been allowed in the first place. Because at its core they are pretty much saying to the Malays this is gods party and umno is the devil, Which to some accounts is true yet, that notion should not be taken lightly as more often than not history has shown those who wielded with the word of god as his own, usually turn to be the devil him self... Personally, Politics should be secular, especially when running a country like this.

Suppose that Pakatan Wins how long do you think they will last when PAS starts to go on its version of The Islamic state? What then? PKR and DAP will kick them out? you cant do it with out losing a huge number of seats in parliament which i bet you will determined if BN or PR takes power.... PAS being the middle guy is very unlikely cause they know they wield some serious power with the kampung malays on their side.... will PKR bend down like what umno is doing now on the fear of losing that much addicted drug called power?

We are voting a more conservative country as a whole either way we go. So Tell me does it matter in the end? Cause atm no political party has actually clearly presented their opinion on the matter not even the rocket man. Which to me is more important that the issues stated above.

Corruption is impossible to wipe off so i kinda am very skeptical that PR can actually wipe corruption off the map of Malaysia it can be controlled but wiping it off is pretty much the same as trying to wipe all the lipas in the world, as corruption is the excess of democracy just that in most countries it is controlled to a degree.... where else here we went one step lower by having a state funded F1 team...

"Once you attempt legislation upon religious grounds, you open the way for every kind of intolerance and religious persecution". Took that from an Irish poet.

We cannot just walk away and tuck our heads into the ground. Why not have a e-vote platform and see what the majority thinks. I am for setting up a pressure group on the the present leadership of MCA. After all like what 'Malaysiacoverup' said the MCA has RM2.0 billion in assets and thus cannot be ignored. The money belonged to the past and present members!

Yes, nobody cares anymore ... but the dying party still has lots of $$$...and so the vultures are fighting for the spoils ... one last kopek. When MCA finally mati, then the $$$ should go to the poor, not to these vultures.

Rita Sim has got it right on the 85% Chinese don't care about MCA finding. But she has got it terribly wrong on her conclusion that Chinese don't care as much for PKR as much as they are disillushioned with BN and therefore have opted for the lesser of 2 evils. She overlooks PR in her observation. It is really Pakatan Rakyat that the Chinese in Malaysia have turned to - PKR and DAP and to a lesser extent, acceptance of PAS but not much more. And no, the Chinese will not come off the worse if MCA dies today. The earlier the better. Chinese in Malaysia need to be part of a bigger national brotherhood of Anak Bangsa Malaysia if we are to survive into 2050 when we will make up no more than 10% of the population. By then, an MCA will be totally irrelevant pain-in-the-butt!

Goodbye MCA! You are like the story of Titanic hits the iceberg. Its your last maiden voyage with all your whoever left passengers. Bye bye!

Goodbye MCA! You are like the story of Titanic hits the iceberg. Its your last maiden voyage with all your whoever left passengers. Bye bye!

" Hey Dr. Chua, if you don't shut-up, you will be charged for the your great BJ show.
"Yes Tuan Umno, I shut up, to hell Chinese community benefits, Yes Tuan Umno"

Most Chinese have become disillusioned with the kind of politics which BN has offered over the years. A politics that does not take the nation to the height that it should with a mainly divide and rule policy which apes British colonialism. In fact, Malaysia can be better than Singapore anytime if not for the short-sighted policies of UMNO. For this, MCA is to be blamed when its leaders are perceived as mainly interested in enriching themselves and not helping its community. BN politics has been the case of enriching one's self before nation!

After 50 years, the theme of the kind of 'nationalism' that led to Merdeka will die an natural death to be replaced with a different concept of nationalism embraced by all Malaysian except for those of the pre-Merdeka generation who do not seem to understand.

To speed up the MCA collapse is to vote Chau Soi Lek. Ong Tee Keat is not a lesser evil either. He yet have guts to fully expose all PKFZ details making him like coward. So once the MCA down the drain, we can see deterioration of UMNO will accelerate, followed by the rest of the BN stooges.

That's all the happening we want to see. The total change of Malaysia, for good.

Not only MCA and Gerakan, MIC as well.

Chinese and Indians no longer care about MCA, Gerakan and MIC respectively as they are deemed only dogs to UMNO.

Bad dogs, really bad dogs some more.

I have high respect for SAPP of Sabah who left BN. Even though they are small, they have back bone. Unlike the MCA, LDP and worst, Gerekan living like dogs wacking their tails so hard in front of the Master so that some crumbs and bones can be passed down to them.

ONLY UMNO cares if MCA sinks or swims not many others do, sure some diehards who haven't examined for themselves the other options, or are afraid of change, or are dependent on BN for their livelihood.

MCA is seen as UMNO's prostitute.... to be ignored until it needs its urge satisfied. Now that this prostitute has VD and gone insane... anyone with a brain doesn't want to touch it....except UMNO cause its former bed partner knows too many intimate secrets that may find its way into the open.

One advice to MCA, please "sapu as much as possible" before the total collapse in the next G.E.! Almost all Chinese votes had gone to PAS/PKR/DAP in the last G.E. The coming G.E will be no different even if some PAS members trying to ask for the ban on alcohol, gambling or Bak Kut Teh!

50 years of pent up frustrations are being release and there is no letting up...

Yeah!. Who care about Tan Chai Hor, Chua Soi Lek, Ng Yen Yen, ex cetera, ex cetera, and ex cetera. MCA is a gone with the wind. At least OTK tried. But MCA members cannot see beyond their noses.

Race based politics is politics in racism. It is a number game. Majority rules over the minority in their racial make up and not on policies. Leaders are elected on the severity they have bashed the other races. They grapb the biggest piece of the pie. The hawks in the party persistently demand for more. The Malaysian model of government is such that the MCA is there to prevent UMNO from over screwing the Chinese, MIC, the Indians, PBS, the Kadazan..and so on. And UMNO is aware that these present corruptible leaders from these minority parties and those before them, can be bought.. Give these leaders some candies, they will not raise any objections for whatever they do to the detriment of these races. They are so submissive even OMNO asked their members to vote for these candidates in order to keep them as figure heads to silence the Chinese and the Indians for their trickery and pokery. The Chinese and the Indian had already started to leave BN few elections ago! It is the Malay voters that kept them in their seats.
Fortunately, we still fair minded Malays who foresaw the danger of this unhealthy development and came to address the discriminations on fellow Malaysians , just like Lincoln, Welberforce , the white politicians whom slavery directly benefit them, advocated the abolition of Slavery and won. Their names etched proudly into the history book as the great statemen of the world and not traitors as the white labelled them at the time. If racial politics is allowed to continue the repercussions is unthinkable. Government shold be chosen based on who has the best policies to bring prosperity to all its citizens and the best use of the country's resources to create sustainable wealth for its future generation, and NOT ON POLICIES TO SCREW ITS OTHER CITIZENS AND KEEP THEM TAME. The days are over. CHANGE WE MUST AND CHANGE WE SHALL - for the country's long term survival.

Right!, I'm a Chinese. All the while I were a great supporter for these MCA's leaders but after the 308, PKR's has change my mind. I am no more a supporter for these leaders because they are now become worse to bad. Day after day, year after year, they never know how to learn theirs pass mistake but still very selfish, self-important, power crazy and many bad things.

MCA is playing into UMNO's Evil Plan of destroying the nation for their own gains.

Who wouldn't be FED UP with a traitor party, so called representing the Chinese what? They are selling off all the rights and priviledges of the chinese for their own gains. Now they cannot build temples, have lion dance etc. Just look at their ill gains properties. No wonder, everybody is greedy to be the MCA President. Thats it, all the other members are just the gurkha doing for the crumbs.

MCA members and supporters, time to wake up and change ship.

MCA = Mau Cari Angpow

For 50 years still want to dominate the chinese voters? Please... it's the end of 1 party, 1 race system. The MCA goons getting richer day by day, the lay people like us getting poorer and poorer. when the petrol go up, the President of MCA don't make noise. When something happen in the country, no one from MCA says a single word. Same with Gerakan. They will not exist in the next General Election because Tan Sri Koh always says "tertakluk kepada Perdana Mentri". I have to discuss with him, this and that. That's the biggest problem with MCA, Gerakan and PPP.

#1 crisis in UMNO - when Anwar formed PKR

#2 crisis in MCA - when OTK vs CSL (whoever wins, MCA's strength reduced by 50%)

#3 crisis in MIC - brewing

The writing is already on the wall for a fresh breeze blowing?

GET REAL SIM!!! The MY Chinese has never got anything from MCA in the first place. Just take a look at the social programs initiated by MCA!!!!!

"Dismissive" is definitely an understatement. It is sickening! Not only those leaders are busy trying to kill each other, now there are less concern as to how the chinese live their lives. If they are so keen to engage in such a fight, why dont all those involved resign and fight untill the cow comes home and on the other hand, find some one who is capable to become the leader. Then again, who is capable and free of corruption?

Perhaps Lim Kit Siang can apply to MCA and become their leader overnight.

Sim, however, worries that should MCA collapse, the Chinese community would be in a “lose-lose” situation.

This statement again shows how irrelevant MCA has turn to nowadays. To categorize chinese community in a lose-lose situation merely because of a PARTY ??? common get real SIM. Chinese community will not lose everything. Please dont think MCA is all that great, as a matter of fact MCA is nothing more than a puppet & charitable organisation. Stop the arrogance and MCA might win back its dignity ! Next election ....... I will again choose THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS !

Judging by the volumous response to the subject matter it is hard to believe that the Chinese don't care anymore whatever happens to MCA. I am of the view that a lot of the Chinese still do care but they are angry and disappointed with MCA's performance.

MCA still have a chance to regain the trust and RESPECT of the Chinese by reforming itself with the correct leadership. In this respect the coming EGM is crucial. The delegates essentially have to choose between OTK and CSL. It is left to the wisdom of delegates to choose a leader who can command respect not only by most men and women in MCA but also most men and women in the Malaysian society at large. Women constitute half of the electorate and if they do not respect this person it will be foolish for the delegates to choose such a person to be the leader of the party.

"A “third force” from within the MCA is redistributing the controversial sex DVD involving Datuk Seri Dr Chua Soi Lek in a bid to add more fuel to the party leadership tussle, said party central committee member Datuk Ti Lian Ker. He said the re-emergence of the DVD was another move by “unseen hands” to embarrass the former deputy president as well as to incite emotion, anger and hatred amongst party members against party president Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat." Quote The Star.

Is this for real! What kind of quarter-baked politicians backers or croonies do we have in this country.
This shows the level of education they have been through. Try something more professional like exposing his incompetancies or incapability. To supporters of OTK, you are missing the trees from the grass. God help us if we have people like these leading the country. Incidentally I am not a great fan or supporter of CSL either. It is just the way things are happening that tells you that certain people are running out of IDEAS!

It is not accurate to say that Chinese don't care for MCA. Until and unless there is true national integration and no more racial segregation, MCA is still relevant to the community... solely because it is THE only pure Chinese party. It is only that the community is fed up with the present condition of the party. If MCA really reforms itself and step out to be outspoken on issues close to the community's heart, then it will be accepted again... that is if it's leaders are not seeking self-gratifications only, but are really sincere to represent the community.

It's still very fresh in my mind. Some ten to fifteen years back when I was still in my primary and secondary school time, I always heard say from my parents that most people would go to seek help from the MCA if they got any problem.

Today I saw people hardly go and seek for help from MCA whenever they got problem.

Saudara Faiz,
Yes, there are those who are pushing for the Islamization of the nation. And we have seen such people within UMNO, PAS and even PKR. And yes, I also have misgivings about a party (PAS) that is built based on religious affiliation. It is more likely than not, that there will be periods of struggle between the Erdogans and the "fundamentalists" within UMNO,PAS and PKR. And no doubt there will be contention with those who seek to turn this country into a one that is governed along religious lines. Even so, the Chinese electorate have given up on MCA and Gerakan. For now, they have thrown in their lot with those who will stand up against the UMNO-dominated BN. Life just ain't perfect and one often finds strange bedfellows in politics. Ultimately, it will be the Malay-Muslim majority though, that will largely decide whether we continue to be mired in the never-ending agony of the UMNO-type administration OR whether we will move on to a new administration with the attendant risks. Anyway, nothing ventured is nothing gained .... I for one, believe that is well worth the risks for the Chinese , to stand up and kick out the MCA now, notwithstanidng the Islamists in PAS and PKR.

MCA = Mau Cari Ang Pau...

those who dont care,then why comment???

To :timmyarena

What is your problem? Itchy underwear?

"Life just ain't perfect and one often finds strange bedfellows in politics. Ultimately, it will be the Malay-Muslim majority though, that will largely decide whether we continue to be mired...."

The above observation by Malaysia First deserve attention. The realisation of one Bangsa Malaysia is at most, a lip service, at the moment. Until that noble goal is achieved, there is no escaping race-based thinking, aspirations and actions. Because the Chinese community is angry at MCA and it's political master, UMNO, they turned to PR. This is inevitable, and not because they love PR. It just happened that there are no other alternatives. Are they really comfortable with the current strong push towards Islamisation being orchestrated here and there, on and off?? Ultimately, the Chinese will still need MCA. the Indians, MIC, the Kadazans, PBS, etc., to represent them. IF ONLY the respective party leaders are genuine and steadfast in carrying out their tasks. With due respect to DAP and PKR, they are parties of the future, representing no one community, but rather multi-racial. But, noble as they may be, will they ever be successful in getting PAS to give up their politics based on religion and it's ultimate aim towards Islamisation of the nation, and to embrace one Bangsa Malaysia in the true spirit?
Let us not kid ourselves. How many didn't feel anything when incidents like the alcohol sales (Selangor), cow head (Selangor), demolition of pig slaughtering house (Kedah), etc., occurred?? And mind you, they happened in PR's turf.
Therefore, it will not be far-fetched to say that for at least the next 10-20 years,parties like MCA, MIC, PBS, etc., like PAS and UMNO, will be relevant to the respective communities. So, let's not be too hasty to condemn MCA into oblivion at the moment, but rather help and/or pressure MCA to reform itself. Better still, actively participate and make the necessary changes from within.

To timmy arena

you can't stop people comment, people comment cause want to let MCA know, they will totally finish in Next GE.

Ever try listening to PAS talks in kampungs immaterial of who the speaker is. From Tk Guru to the youth wing?!! It's a smack of hypocrisy. What Richie wrote is a food for thought. Datuk Zaid is a true Malaysian.

MCA is going down.... MIC is going down.... UMNO is going to be last party standing in the next GE, or will it?
What's bringing BN down? race-based parties and corruptions. In the case of MCA, with the internal squabble and PKFZ scandal, what more can I say? It seems like MCA is 'same-same' like the rest in BN. So who cares? Who cares what's going on in MCA nowadays? Who cares about any explanation from MCA wrt the PKFZ scandal? Who cares who's gonna be the president at the end of the day? Me, as a Chinese, just don't care anymore

I can't say for the rest of the Chinese or Malaysian, but I'm just letting MCA or BN to die off a natural death, perhaps in the next GE

As a third generation Chinese we were told how the MCA founders helped in the fight against the communists after the war and participated in the negotiations for independence and how upright they were - but sadly good leaders passed on and the later MCA leaders who, being typically Chinese, saw opportunities of enriching themselves by being in politics and that is what MCA became = makan cukup angpow - and as Malaysia developed and more natural resources were found, greedy eyes and mouths enlarged and ate as much as possible, whilst in the corridors of power (to borrow from MT). Of course the last 22 + years were the golden years for the MCA leaders too - highways and hospitals projects all over the country (nb the MCA portfolios in the Cabinet). Have you wondered how some boutiques and pub survive the times! So will it be judgment day for MCA? Of course not, some were smart to retire and some still crave for power and wealth to land the MCA in its current situation.

Judging by the voluminous responses, we still DON'T care who makes it to the top in MCA. MCA supporters are flattering themselves by based on others' anger at MCA.

The commentators write because they are angry about important issues MCA has missed, corruption the MCA has condoned, the opportunities it wasted, the media resources it hogged, the nothingness it achieved.

Is MCA still relevant? Do we really care about its existence? Must MCA be our saviour? Should MCA be the punching bag whenever a policy has alienated us? All of us are angry and an angry man is in no position to make a just and fair judgment. Look at all angles intellectually with humility and do not be judgmental. To be fair Malaysian Chinese have inadvertently contributed to its present dilemma. Just pause for a while and ask ourselves how much have we contributed to the MCA’s survival or cause. Take a look at the nearest MCA branch’s office-bearers. With due respect, most of them are without tertiary education. Kudos to them for trying their best to be the guardians of MCA providing whatever services they are capable of notwithstanding their academic disadvantages. Due to rapid changes and improvement in educational, social, political and economical achievements of Malaysians, expectations and demands have changed tremendously too. They are relatively and comparatively higher than before thus the quality of the MCA officials have to upgraded. We need members of all strata. Everyone has his duty/function to enhance the effectiveness and the relevance of the party which must be duly appreciated. Apparently, better qualified office-bearers will be able to effectively and confidently articulate and present the needs and aspirations of Malaysian Chinese and Malaysians at large. Ever ready to engage in any intellectual discussion without fear and favour. We should have more Datuk Dr Jeffrey Goh of WP KL who is young, well-informed, dynamic and very comfortable in Mandarin, BM and BI. His outstanding stature, calibre, attitude and positive qualities of future leadership should be a bench mark for MCA.
The veterans are still very much needed and should consolidate with the new breed of academically superior members. They should be proud and honoured to have the opportunity to nurture and train the future leaders and not clinging to whatever positions they see fit for their own selfish ends which ultimately cause the downfall of the party. To be able to come to term of IMPERMANENCE is the essence of the survival of the party as it will help to avoid internal bickering and jostling for positions in the party.
With the emergence of IT, CHANGE is the key word. BUT the educated ones who are quick to criticize whenever the chips are down are usually too busy to get involved or is it not COOL to be seen with MCA. Giving comments and being critical towards a singer is easy but have you ever tried rendering a song? It is blatantly untrue to say that MCA has done nothing for the Chinese community. Could anyone please list down what have the other political parties done for the Chinese community and the truth will be revealed. Of course MCA like other political parties has its short-comings which need to be addressed and the leaders must be sensitive and proactive to deal with them.
MCA is still a relevant component party in BN taking into consideration the political scenario and mentality of Malaysians today. Ought to be realistic. PR is no exception, their allies are also very much race based parties - PAS(Malay /Muslim) and DAP(Chinese). We cannot deny that the composition of Penang State PR Administration is the reflection of race-based concept so is Selangor and Kedah where the sole Chinese representative is appointed Exco. Imperatively the status quo of BN must be preserved. To survive, the main players of BN need to be overhauled, mindset to be changed, banish the corrupts and get rid of all racial and religious bigots. However, number equates strength. Thus, we need to address the questions I have posted earlier, as the opening statements. Stop the blaming game or the zero sum game. Be constructive and be part of the solution to the MCA’s dilemma. Together we should be able to build a better Malaysia for every Malaysian.
OTK belonging to the new generation leadership should be given the opportunity to lead the party as CSL’s misadventure has rendered him a liability not only to MCA but BN. I for one still care and this doesn’t mean that I am looking at the oppositions through my negative eyes.