DUNGUN, Oct 5 — Declaring that the opposition Pakatan Rakyat will not improve Malaysia if it takes over from Barisan Nasional, Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad reserved his vitriol for PAS for flip-flopping over cooperating with non-Muslims to rule the country.
He said most of the leaders from the Opposition were seen to be willing to change their stand just to gain popularity and support from the people.
“I think things will only get worse. Their leaders are willing to make “halal” everything,” Mahathir was quoted as saying by the state Bernama news agency.
The former prime minister who ruled the country for 22 years until October 2003 has always fought with PAS and has resisted any cooperation with them. Apart from PAS, Pakatan Rakyat comprises DAP and PKR.
Mahathir’s greatest achievement was to lure PKR leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim to join Umno in 1982 instead of PAS. Anwar rose up to be deputy prime minister before he was sacked in 1998 on charges of sodomy and corruption.
“Previously, PAS had said cooperation with non-Muslims would make one an infidel but now not only are they cooperating with non-Muslims, they are also saying it is okay to rear pigs, only that Muslims should not consume pork.
“PAS quotes the Quran that pork is “haram” but that it did not say pigs cannot be reared. Going by this, it means we can rear pigs, can sell pork but not eat it. Just because they want the cooperation of some people, they are willing to compromise on their principles,” Dr Mahathir said.
His comments came two days after Umno put Tan Sri Mohamed Isa Samad to face PAS Negri Sembilan chief Zulkefly Omar to retain the Bagan Pinang state seat and cut Pakatan Rakyat’s unbroken string of victories in the peninsula since the general elections last year.
Mahathir opposed Isa’s nomination as the former Negri Sembilan mentri besar was suspended for three years from the party vice-presidency for vote-buying in 2005 and declared he will not campaign for Oct 11 by-election .
Earlier, the 85-year-old delivered a lecture entitled “Dari Minda Tun, Ketuanan Melayu” (From Tun’s Mind, Malay Supremacy) at Dewan Aspirasi Universiti Teknologi Mara (UiTM) Terengganu here.
Also present was UiTM vice chancellor, Tan Sri Prof Dr Ibrahim Abu Shah.
Mahathir further explained that Malaysia could ill-afford leaders who were inconsistent in their stand just for the sake of gaining popularity.
“It is just the same with another leader who is a now a strong supporter of Hindraf (the banned Hindu Rights Action Force movement),” he said without naming who he was referring to.
But the acerbic Mahathir recently had run-ins with MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu, saying that his former ally should retire from politics and blaming him for BN’s loss in Election 2008.
Commenting on the future of Umno, the backbone of the BN, he said the party was still relevant but its leaders and members must be wise and brave in taking “corrective measures”.“If a leader does something that is not good, they must voice out...I laud the appointment of Senator Datuk Seri Idris Jala as Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department. There should be more appointments from outside the party in government leadership positions,” he said.
Idris’s appointment has raised the ire of Umno and Sarawak Barisan Nasional lawmakers who feel that they should have been consulted over the move. Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak has said the appointment is to ensure better governance.
In his speech, Dr Mahathir urged bumiputera students to be brave in competing with other races, including in pursuing higher education in private tertiary institutions that were not dominated by bumiputeras like UiTM.
They should prove their ability to compete by enrolling in institutions like Kolej Tunku Abdul Rahman, he added.
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written by Robert, October 05, 2009
written by Robert, October 05, 2009
Tun is flatly wrong. Malaysia cannot afford to continue to have the same kind of government where blatant racial discrimination is sanction by the government. We need new thinking to make Malaysia move forward in leaps and bounds!
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written by lingam, October 05, 2009
written by lingam, October 05, 2009
Quote: Going by this, it means we can rear pigs, can sell pork but not eat it. Just because they want cooperation of some people, they are willing to compromise on their principles,” Dr Mahatir said
How clever – what he meant was his own son can own and run the biggest brewery company in the world to make beer, to sell beer but cannot drink it. Indeed just because his son wants to make money from beer, they are willing to compromise with Satan.
How clever – what he meant was his own son can own and run the biggest brewery company in the world to make beer, to sell beer but cannot drink it. Indeed just because his son wants to make money from beer, they are willing to compromise with Satan.
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written by MamakMaha, October 05, 2009
written by MamakMaha, October 05, 2009
There is only one thing I wish to do before I die; I wanted to throw my shoe at si Mahatir so badly. THe next time you see someone throwing a shoe at him, that's me!
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written by justice, October 05, 2009
written by justice, October 05, 2009
I notice that in almost every report/analysis on Bagan Pinang, Malaysian Insider always mentions the strong possibility of Isa Samad winning and thus UMNO ending PR's winning streak. What makes you so sure UMNO and Isa going to win? After 2008 political tsunami, no UMNO stronghold is safe anymore. MI has stooped so low in exposing itself as an UMNO propagandist tool, deliberately mentioning "ending PR winning streak" so as to influence voters' mind. You are no better than UMNO saying a lie 1000 times so that it eventually appears to be a truth. Shame on you.
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written by Aries, October 05, 2009
written by Aries, October 05, 2009
Tun, you are entitled to your opinion, as much as we are entitled to our own.
Basically, the message of GE12 is that the rakyat had had enough of BN-UMNO rule after 52 years.
They are ready for a NEW MALAYSIA, with new approaches, new players, new mindset, new rules, new whatever that are necessary as we go along the path of the nation's growth in this new GLOBAL WILDERNESS.
We are sick and tired of the corruption and money politics and the OLD WILY POLITICIANS who are past their "used by" dates, etc., etc., and who had overstayed in their cosy corners and become deadwoods and liabilities, as you had pointed out on occasions.
Whether PR or any other entities come to run the nation is immaterial as long as there are integrity, accountability, transparency, competency, etc., etc.
The nation is NOT devoid of capable and trustworthy Malaysians, whether they are Malay, Chinese, Indians, Ibans, Kadazan-Dusun, Dayaks, Orang Asli ( the TRUE BUMIPUTERA ),etc., etc., ready to answer the call of national service.
Just like yourself, when you were a young and eager soul back in the "good old days", the elders had their doubts too about the young and inexperienced. Now as you are in that wise golden age, we cannot blame you to have your reservations and doubts, which is natural.
Just as you had written somewhere too, that in politics there are no permanent friends or foes. The same applies to DAP, PAS, PKR, or just any other parties. Just like you they could change their "sleeping partners" too. Don't deny others what others did not deny you, Tun!
Religious and worldly knowledge evolve and change according to new wisdoms and circumstances. WHat you did not see, hear or feel in your early days are stark realities now. Dulu lain, sekarang lain. We have to adapt to changes, don't we? Or else we would forever be caught in the "comfort" of our tempurung, which is counter progressive and productive, as you would concur, Tun.
Let the young run the show, Tun. For better, or for worse, we move as one Malaysian. "Opposition" is not such a dirty word as you might have imagined; just as "Familiarity" do sometimes breed contempt! "Opposition will make Malaysia Worse" is such an old and tried way of telling BN that PR is A REAL THREAT! The "opposition", whoever they are, take this as a compliment!
The power of the ballot is also the wisdom of the electorates. Do not underestimate the intelligence and ability of the rakyat. If they could be "foolish" to have kept BN for so long, they could in the same breath, be "wise" to choose the opposition. There is only so much we could do, God also has His Plans.
Man proposes, God dispenses.
Basically, the message of GE12 is that the rakyat had had enough of BN-UMNO rule after 52 years.
They are ready for a NEW MALAYSIA, with new approaches, new players, new mindset, new rules, new whatever that are necessary as we go along the path of the nation's growth in this new GLOBAL WILDERNESS.
We are sick and tired of the corruption and money politics and the OLD WILY POLITICIANS who are past their "used by" dates, etc., etc., and who had overstayed in their cosy corners and become deadwoods and liabilities, as you had pointed out on occasions.
Whether PR or any other entities come to run the nation is immaterial as long as there are integrity, accountability, transparency, competency, etc., etc.
The nation is NOT devoid of capable and trustworthy Malaysians, whether they are Malay, Chinese, Indians, Ibans, Kadazan-Dusun, Dayaks, Orang Asli ( the TRUE BUMIPUTERA ),etc., etc., ready to answer the call of national service.
Just like yourself, when you were a young and eager soul back in the "good old days", the elders had their doubts too about the young and inexperienced. Now as you are in that wise golden age, we cannot blame you to have your reservations and doubts, which is natural.
Just as you had written somewhere too, that in politics there are no permanent friends or foes. The same applies to DAP, PAS, PKR, or just any other parties. Just like you they could change their "sleeping partners" too. Don't deny others what others did not deny you, Tun!
Religious and worldly knowledge evolve and change according to new wisdoms and circumstances. WHat you did not see, hear or feel in your early days are stark realities now. Dulu lain, sekarang lain. We have to adapt to changes, don't we? Or else we would forever be caught in the "comfort" of our tempurung, which is counter progressive and productive, as you would concur, Tun.
Let the young run the show, Tun. For better, or for worse, we move as one Malaysian. "Opposition" is not such a dirty word as you might have imagined; just as "Familiarity" do sometimes breed contempt! "Opposition will make Malaysia Worse" is such an old and tried way of telling BN that PR is A REAL THREAT! The "opposition", whoever they are, take this as a compliment!
The power of the ballot is also the wisdom of the electorates. Do not underestimate the intelligence and ability of the rakyat. If they could be "foolish" to have kept BN for so long, they could in the same breath, be "wise" to choose the opposition. There is only so much we could do, God also has His Plans.
Man proposes, God dispenses.
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written by Peter, October 05, 2009
written by Peter, October 05, 2009
"They should prove their ability to compete by enrolling in institutions like Kolej Tunku Abdul Rahman, he added."
Yes and they should also prove their ability to compete by opening up bumi-only institutions like MARA to other races too.
Yes and they should also prove their ability to compete by opening up bumi-only institutions like MARA to other races too.
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written by matureman07, October 05, 2009
written by matureman07, October 05, 2009
I would think for someone like Tun Mahathir stature, he should praise PAS for changing to be more moderate instead of criticising them. Tun should not focus on uniting the country and not dividing them. Tun should stay above politic and should look at Malaysian as Malaysian and not individual race.
There are so much Tun can contribute to this country. He is the only person who can tell off politicians from both side if he focus on neutrality. He can even tell off the Sultans if they too are wrong. Now that he choose to be taking side in politic and he subject himself to be criticised and as a result of that, what he build himself over the years to achieve such stature is gone.
There are so much Tun can contribute to this country. He is the only person who can tell off politicians from both side if he focus on neutrality. He can even tell off the Sultans if they too are wrong. Now that he choose to be taking side in politic and he subject himself to be criticised and as a result of that, what he build himself over the years to achieve such stature is gone.
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written by Jayenjr, October 05, 2009
written by Jayenjr, October 05, 2009
".....leaders and members must be wise and brave in taking “corrective measures”.
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First corrective measure that this country needs, is to convict you of the crimes that you, had committed towards this country. You maybe known as "Bapa Kemodenan", but I think many people would also agree, that you are also Bapa Rasuah.
A bigger hypocrite than you couldn't be found in this land presently; not Nazri, not Najib, not Rais Yatim, no, not even Keris-mudin. From the time you caused problems in 69 to this day, somehow you seem to always come back and spew venom. A man's destiny would either be ordained by God, or, be guided by the Devil.
Looking at the venom you have been spewing, the ISA that you strengthened, the UMNO/BN corruption that today is so emboldened that, so much so that the current PM can call it a "technicality" without any remorse or sense of embarassment....
I am inclined to believe that the same Devil that was behind the likes of Hitler or Idi Amin, inspires you. Why, the very fact that you are proud of what you think you have achieved in all your years, makes it all the more compelling that you must have some form of infernal inspiration!
But you know what Mahathir?
I think behind all that "mega" look that you seem to project, you are really a coward. No more than the Jaguh Kampung - that you are. You hide behind your positional security, by virtue that you were the ex-PM (and also the fact that you are an UMNO member), to avoid being held accountable for all your mis-deeds. I do remember though, that for awhile, you seemed to be shaking in your pants when the VK Lingam episode busrt onto the scene; but eventually, our gutless Rip Van Winkle of an ex PM didn't have the stomach to run the distance.
Any other part of the world, and you have would been rotting in jail. Why, as you like to remind us of the Japs whom you "admire" so much - a disgraced leader would have committed hara-kiri.
But there you are, riding into the sunset......
God is waiting for you.
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First corrective measure that this country needs, is to convict you of the crimes that you, had committed towards this country. You maybe known as "Bapa Kemodenan", but I think many people would also agree, that you are also Bapa Rasuah.
A bigger hypocrite than you couldn't be found in this land presently; not Nazri, not Najib, not Rais Yatim, no, not even Keris-mudin. From the time you caused problems in 69 to this day, somehow you seem to always come back and spew venom. A man's destiny would either be ordained by God, or, be guided by the Devil.
Looking at the venom you have been spewing, the ISA that you strengthened, the UMNO/BN corruption that today is so emboldened that, so much so that the current PM can call it a "technicality" without any remorse or sense of embarassment....
I am inclined to believe that the same Devil that was behind the likes of Hitler or Idi Amin, inspires you. Why, the very fact that you are proud of what you think you have achieved in all your years, makes it all the more compelling that you must have some form of infernal inspiration!
But you know what Mahathir?
I think behind all that "mega" look that you seem to project, you are really a coward. No more than the Jaguh Kampung - that you are. You hide behind your positional security, by virtue that you were the ex-PM (and also the fact that you are an UMNO member), to avoid being held accountable for all your mis-deeds. I do remember though, that for awhile, you seemed to be shaking in your pants when the VK Lingam episode busrt onto the scene; but eventually, our gutless Rip Van Winkle of an ex PM didn't have the stomach to run the distance.
Any other part of the world, and you have would been rotting in jail. Why, as you like to remind us of the Japs whom you "admire" so much - a disgraced leader would have committed hara-kiri.
But there you are, riding into the sunset......
God is waiting for you.
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written by Asha Iyengar, October 05, 2009
written by Asha Iyengar, October 05, 2009
I think Tun's remarks on BN being the sole dominant ruling coalition government is truly not int he true spirit of democracy. It is a step backwards and reinforcing the attitude of arrogance which is the hallmark of UMNO. Well Samy Vellu is unpopular among the Indians for not standing up against UMNO...the truth is its UMNO which created the 2008 political tsunami. Tun's insecure remarks is aptly made at the world's one and only apartheid university (read Mara).
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written by ginger_cat, October 05, 2009
written by ginger_cat, October 05, 2009
the one man more than any other responsible for the erosion of governance standards and the decay of institutions in malaysia still insists on having his last word. tun mahathir, you have done enough damage to this once beautiful country. please shut up and go quietly. the majority of the rakyat is very very sick and tired of you. we don't need any more of your advice, least of all for whom we shall give our votes in pru13. the end of bn/umno's rule and your passing shall not be met with sadness.
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written by 14th apostle, October 05, 2009
written by 14th apostle, October 05, 2009
Mahathir is trying to run down the opposition. What he is more concern about is the opposition taking over the Federal government and DSAI becoming PM. Then he will have to pack-up and run to another country such as Rwanda or Zimbabwi. Other countries will not take him in. He is spouting nonsense again. Gambling is also an offense according to Islamic law. Why issue licences to Toto. Magnum and Da Ma Cai. Why licensed the casino an Genting Higalands, allowing muslims to work in the haram place but forbibbing muslims to gamble. Hypocrites!
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written by kz, October 05, 2009
written by kz, October 05, 2009
After decades of Mahathir, I don't see how PAS can make it any worse. In my point of view, Malaysia has everything to gain and nothing to lose by changing the government.
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written by zackeye, October 05, 2009
written by zackeye, October 05, 2009
This Tun must be out of his mind or just saying it because he is so scared of PAS. At no time did PAS advocate for its members or Muslims to rear pigs to be sold to non Muslims. What PAS advocate is that non Muslims are free to rear pigs for their own consumptions and must rear them in a modern and clean environment. This is a very progressive thinking. Only UMNO try to make it as an issue.
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written by scrutinizer, October 05, 2009
written by scrutinizer, October 05, 2009
Dr M has already ruined Malaysia in such a devastating state that it takes another 52 yrs to recuperate. He has split, divide & rule, breaking the racial harmony. His destructions done to this country is much more than his meagre contribution.
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written by godfearing, October 05, 2009
written by godfearing, October 05, 2009
Just wondering why some people are against anything pig (pig rearing, selling pork, etc. etc). How did pig came into this world if it is not created by God? So why are they against God?
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written by MadeADifference, October 05, 2009
written by MadeADifference, October 05, 2009
The successes and failures of Malaysia today are the results of Alliance/BN power sharing formula and living in self-gratification and self-denial of mediocre achievements as excellent. 308 is not the result of 1 person, PR/BN but the people have spoken against divide and rule along race/religion/language/gender with self proclamation of superiority by the dominant party over its subservient partners with leaders for self interests who failed to represent The Rakyat (Malay/Chinese/Indian/Iban/Kadazan etc.
After 18 months since 308, our leaders from both BN/PR still failed to accept the reality of 308 to be issues centered across race/religion/language/gender for Nation building based on merit to be competitive in this borderless world.
Issues dear to The Rakyat and Malaysia are handled along race/religion/language/gender and political divide like the education system along national/vernacular/religious stream with dwi and even tri-bahasa of BM with English/Chinese with English and Tamil with English for excellence in Malaysia but irrelevant in borderless world!
The way forward for Malaysia is for sensitive issues on race/religion/language/gender etc. be decided by the august House via secret ballot instead of show of hand which toe party line and cultivate Yes Man culture!
Meaningful opposition is essential to provide a check and balance on the Gov of both BN/PR!
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After 18 months since 308, our leaders from both BN/PR still failed to accept the reality of 308 to be issues centered across race/religion/language/gender for Nation building based on merit to be competitive in this borderless world.
Issues dear to The Rakyat and Malaysia are handled along race/religion/language/gender and political divide like the education system along national/vernacular/religious stream with dwi and even tri-bahasa of BM with English/Chinese with English and Tamil with English for excellence in Malaysia but irrelevant in borderless world!
The way forward for Malaysia is for sensitive issues on race/religion/language/gender etc. be decided by the august House via secret ballot instead of show of hand which toe party line and cultivate Yes Man culture!
Meaningful opposition is essential to provide a check and balance on the Gov of both BN/PR!
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MadeADifference2thecountry
MAD
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written by AL L, October 05, 2009
written by AL L, October 05, 2009
Dear Tun Dr. Mahathir, you urged again bumiputera students to be brave in competing with other races which means you know very well that one must go through real and tough competitions then only can be truly successful. If the Government and bumi community are not willing/prepared to allow their bumi students to stand in a real open competition and how to expect them (our bumi students) to be successful in the private sectors as well as in international arenas. During your tenure as Education Minister of Malaysia during 1970s, because of your educational policy that the then very high standard of G.C.E. O and A levels have been replaced by M.C.E. and H.S.C. respectively. The M.C.E and H.S.C. still not too bad because our students were still allowed to seat all examination papers from London. The G.C.E. O and A levels can always maintain at a very high standard simply because these examinations are taken by most of students from Commonwealth Countries (more than 60 countries all over the world). I was the last batch of student who took full M.C.E in 1976 and after 1980 the M.C.E and H.S.C. were totally replaced by SPM and STPM respectively. Since then our students have been completely using BM and never have chances to seat these high level GCE Examinations anymore. In 1990s, the then Government under your tenure as PM of Malaysia, you created two Examination Systems, namely SPTM (100% for non-Bumi, Bumi is not interested due to too difficult to pass and real tough to obtain A+s) and Matriculasi (100% for Bumi in first 10 years, now 90% for Bumi, too easy to get A+ so can not fully open to non-Bumi )… Today, our Bumi graduates practically are almost relied on government for jobs and this is the reason why more than 90% of government servants are Bumi. For your information, the Ratio of Our Government Servants to the Population (RGSP) is about 1:20 . The RGSP of Singapore and the UK are 1:56 and 1:80 respectively. Our current RGSP stands at 1:20 excluding those employee of Government Linked Companies (GLCs) such as TNB, Telekom, Petronas, MAS,PKNS.....etc . If all employee of these GLCs are included then our RGSP would be closed to 1:15. From these figures, therefore we know that one Malaysian government servant serves only 20 Malaysian people average but in Singapore, her one Government Servant could serve up to 56 people in average. These figures also showed that our government servants are 3 and 4 times less effective than the Singaporean and British respectively. India got only 24 ministers against her population of 1 Billion people, however, Malaysia has about 30+ (plus) ministers which is 30% more than Cabinet of the Indian Government but our population is only 2.5% of the Indian Population. I also would like to give you another real example, in my Taman Industri, there are almost thousand of SME factories (many of them are very dynamic and doing a lot of export business like what I do) I only see ONE (1) Bumi factory who is doing Sign Boards business for Pejabat2 Kerajaan…….
Dear Dr Mahathir indeed you are the one who made our dear Bumi become today’s
sad situation like these…
Dear Dr Mahathir indeed you are the one who made our dear Bumi become today’s
sad situation like these…
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written by bangsa_malaysia, October 06, 2009
written by bangsa_malaysia, October 06, 2009
To all Malay, the well being (education, wealth, social standing and respect) of your race is being destroyed by none other than the man who for 22 years claims that he is fighting on behalf you!
Wake and notice this talam dua muka from the statement that he makes about others!
I rather give my vote to PAS instead of BN due to their lies, deceits, corrupt mindset and create racial tension.
Saudara dan saudari, sudah tiba masa untuk anda berfikir sendiri sebelum membuat keputusan serta mengundi kepada parti PAS! Saya ingin hendak mengemukakan satu soalan iaitu mengapakah orang-orang melayu memerlukan TM untuk memberi nasihat, bukankan ini menghina diri sendiri?
Nasihat untuk PR: edarkan surat perlantikan anaknya di syarikat arak San Miguel Corporation, Philippine.
Salam!
Wake and notice this talam dua muka from the statement that he makes about others!
I rather give my vote to PAS instead of BN due to their lies, deceits, corrupt mindset and create racial tension.
Saudara dan saudari, sudah tiba masa untuk anda berfikir sendiri sebelum membuat keputusan serta mengundi kepada parti PAS! Saya ingin hendak mengemukakan satu soalan iaitu mengapakah orang-orang melayu memerlukan TM untuk memberi nasihat, bukankan ini menghina diri sendiri?
Nasihat untuk PR: edarkan surat perlantikan anaknya di syarikat arak San Miguel Corporation, Philippine.
Salam!
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written by Singha, October 06, 2009
written by Singha, October 06, 2009
'Dari Minda Tun, Ketuanan Melayu' What a racist title for a racist forum.
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written by keat, October 06, 2009
written by keat, October 06, 2009
twist and turn.
mati ikan kerana umpan
mati bn kerana suapan
mati ikan kerana umpan
mati bn kerana suapan
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written by Confused, October 06, 2009
written by Confused, October 06, 2009
Why can't a person in his last few years months weeks days do and say something more constructive, one wonders ? He should be saying and doing things like what a bapa malaysia should.
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written by mic, October 06, 2009
written by mic, October 06, 2009
Dr. Mahathir, You are a shamed man who is hiding behind umno now, thats why you critisise PAS . The younger generation malays are not fools anymore than you hope for. PAS cooperates with the truth ( transparency) so whoever speaks the truth is a worthy partner. The more you speak , the more you belittle our countrymen.
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written by Billy, October 06, 2009
written by Billy, October 06, 2009
But it cannot be any worse off compared with the 22 years you helmed the nation as the prime minister. With the opposition, we see hope, we see a light at the end of the tunnel. When the opposition took over the five states, there was that gentle breeze of fresh air, and we could feel we were ONE again.
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written by jesseltonite, October 06, 2009
written by jesseltonite, October 06, 2009
A strong opposition be it BN or PR will only create a more open and civil society on top of a stronger democratic foundations..people will debate and will listen ideas even if they do not agree..transparency as well as a strong system of check and balance will be in place..
I therefore strongly disagree with Tun..
I therefore strongly disagree with Tun..
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written by TC, October 06, 2009
written by TC, October 06, 2009
We the people have given BN (UMNO?) more than 50 years to get thing right and look at the situation now. Can we honestly and seriously say that we are happy with the current state of our beloved Malaysia. No!
So what is the alternative to the current state of hubris in our country? Answer ~ PR. Period. To me Mahathir is the greatest flip-flopper of our time.
So what is the alternative to the current state of hubris in our country? Answer ~ PR. Period. To me Mahathir is the greatest flip-flopper of our time.
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written by Newchief, October 06, 2009
written by Newchief, October 06, 2009
day by day,tun is getting on with the character of moron umno. this old man should in the first place,insist that his son be not involve in the beer industry because this is HARAM!!!!
how can tun give judgement on pk which is in its infanity stage and has to face chaos CREATED BY UMNO in within their administration!!!! on teh contrary, tun should have said that the RAKYAT SHOULD VOTE AGAINST bn because it has too many corrupted and greedy personnels within bn!!! for 52 years it is still not fully advanced as compared to other asia countries who started off later than malaysia and has gone through massive governments changing hands and yet, they can and manage to be on top on malaysia!!!
how can tun give judgement on pk which is in its infanity stage and has to face chaos CREATED BY UMNO in within their administration!!!! on teh contrary, tun should have said that the RAKYAT SHOULD VOTE AGAINST bn because it has too many corrupted and greedy personnels within bn!!! for 52 years it is still not fully advanced as compared to other asia countries who started off later than malaysia and has gone through massive governments changing hands and yet, they can and manage to be on top on malaysia!!!
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written by damnfools, October 06, 2009
written by damnfools, October 06, 2009
Malaysia is in the state it is today mainly due to Dr M. Just keep silent if you ain't got anything smart and truthful to say!
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written by justbefare, October 06, 2009
written by justbefare, October 06, 2009
He is right!!!
At this moment, we are no better,but when the day come, we will all raise together across the country and rules 100x better
At this moment, we are no better,but when the day come, we will all raise together across the country and rules 100x better
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written by KL Low, October 06, 2009
written by KL Low, October 06, 2009
As usual, twisting truths and sprouting half truths to further only his own and his clan's interests at the expense of ordinary Malaysians.
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written by Aries, October 06, 2009
written by Aries, October 06, 2009
BTW, pigs are creations of God. They are certainly NOT haram! Where is it stated in the holy books that pigs are haram?
If one despises pigs, he despises God's Creations as well.
For those who believe in and fear God, it is time to stop being hypocrites and bigots.
Pigs are certainly much better than hypocrites and bigots.
In Malaysia, such basic lessons need to be taught and learned by the ignorant and mentally skewed.
Their world is always under the tempurung; feel so sad for them. Even Munsyi Abdullah did better in his times. He proved to be much more learned, open minded, enlightened, intelligent, curious, impartial, magnanimous, etc., etc., than many who claimed him to be one of his own kind, when he was in reality of Arab-Indian descent, and never claimed to be a Malay at all. One has to read his writings, like Hikayat Munsyi Abdullah, to really understand and know who he actually is, and his intellect. Of particular interest is his caustic criticism of those who were lazy and opportunistic and lording over others. Please read Munsyi Abdullah's book at the very next opportunity, as it provides a lot of insight to Malaysian society, its people especially, and their characters then and now, which remain much the same!
Don't go on despising pigs, because it will reflect poorly and badly on yourself, in NO TIME!
Pigs are food for thoughts!
If one despises pigs, he despises God's Creations as well.
For those who believe in and fear God, it is time to stop being hypocrites and bigots.
Pigs are certainly much better than hypocrites and bigots.
In Malaysia, such basic lessons need to be taught and learned by the ignorant and mentally skewed.
Their world is always under the tempurung; feel so sad for them. Even Munsyi Abdullah did better in his times. He proved to be much more learned, open minded, enlightened, intelligent, curious, impartial, magnanimous, etc., etc., than many who claimed him to be one of his own kind, when he was in reality of Arab-Indian descent, and never claimed to be a Malay at all. One has to read his writings, like Hikayat Munsyi Abdullah, to really understand and know who he actually is, and his intellect. Of particular interest is his caustic criticism of those who were lazy and opportunistic and lording over others. Please read Munsyi Abdullah's book at the very next opportunity, as it provides a lot of insight to Malaysian society, its people especially, and their characters then and now, which remain much the same!
Don't go on despising pigs, because it will reflect poorly and badly on yourself, in NO TIME!
Pigs are food for thoughts!
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written by sathia, October 06, 2009
written by sathia, October 06, 2009
God created man to be different and this makes the world a more challenging place to live in.
Hence, there will be god's creature who will rear and eat pork and those that will shun beef. Let it be that way and it makes the world a better place to live in.
By the way, no party in Malaysia is worst than BN and UMNO to rule Malaysia.
The better party is Pakatan Rakyat no doubt about it. It had demonstrated its competency, transparency and accountability and showed its good governance in Selangor and Penang.
BN is famed for the corruption at its worst and PKFZ, BMF scandal, MAS, Renong and Konsortium Perkapalan Bhd bailout , Khir Toyo and family and maid Disneyland fantansies at taxpayer's expenses all bear testimony to BN corrupt to the core.
Toll Highways contracts are covered by OSA to hide the BN's way of rewarding huge billions of ringgit to cronies starting from Mahathir's era.
I am sure Pakatan Rakyat is the sure way to good governance and is the way forward for Malaysia.
Hence, there will be god's creature who will rear and eat pork and those that will shun beef. Let it be that way and it makes the world a better place to live in.
By the way, no party in Malaysia is worst than BN and UMNO to rule Malaysia.
The better party is Pakatan Rakyat no doubt about it. It had demonstrated its competency, transparency and accountability and showed its good governance in Selangor and Penang.
BN is famed for the corruption at its worst and PKFZ, BMF scandal, MAS, Renong and Konsortium Perkapalan Bhd bailout , Khir Toyo and family and maid Disneyland fantansies at taxpayer's expenses all bear testimony to BN corrupt to the core.
Toll Highways contracts are covered by OSA to hide the BN's way of rewarding huge billions of ringgit to cronies starting from Mahathir's era.
I am sure Pakatan Rakyat is the sure way to good governance and is the way forward for Malaysia.
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written by lkh, October 06, 2009
written by lkh, October 06, 2009
Tun Ma's saying is out dated as his age. Since he is Muslim should he himself believe creatures in the world are creations of God's wishes. Everything God made has their duty to be any kind of themselves to be going according to god's thinking and decision making.
Pig is created with a reason it means something to man-kind. Could we make it as sordid reason to derogate another political party politically?
Pig is created with a reason it means something to man-kind. Could we make it as sordid reason to derogate another political party politically?
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written by ziggy, October 06, 2009
written by ziggy, October 06, 2009
" IF " the Judiciary in Malaysia is TRUELY independant then ALL the Jails in the country will be filled
to the bream, thats for sure.
to the bream, thats for sure.
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written by Sinatra_Z, October 06, 2009
written by Sinatra_Z, October 06, 2009
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"Mahathir’s greatest achievement was to lure PKR leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim to join Umno in 1982 instead of PAS. Anwar rose up to be deputy prime minister before he was sacked in 1998 on charges of sodomy and corruption."
Geez whatever happened to the modernisation and stuff huh? Wow bringing Anwar into UMNO, yes he will always be remembered as that, greatest achievement. Instead of Bapa Pemodenan he will be remembered as Bapa Bawak Anwar Masuk UMNO according to this article.
Talk about spin this is quite impressive! I'd have to say Mahathir's biggest flaw is actually that.
"Mahathir’s greatest achievement was to lure PKR leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim to join Umno in 1982 instead of PAS. Anwar rose up to be deputy prime minister before he was sacked in 1998 on charges of sodomy and corruption."
Geez whatever happened to the modernisation and stuff huh? Wow bringing Anwar into UMNO, yes he will always be remembered as that, greatest achievement. Instead of Bapa Pemodenan he will be remembered as Bapa Bawak Anwar Masuk UMNO according to this article.
Talk about spin this is quite impressive! I'd have to say Mahathir's biggest flaw is actually that.
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written by ts, October 06, 2009
written by ts, October 06, 2009
“PAS quotes the Quran that pork is “haram” but that it did not say pigs cannot be reared. Going by this, it means we can rear pigs, can sell pork but not eat it. Just because they want the cooperation of some people, they are willing to compromise on their principles,” Dr Mahathir said.
Excuse me Dr. M, this is Malaysia and there are other races in this country as well. So if pig cannot be reared in this country, so should cow!! Some Buddhist they do not eat beef and I believe some Indian as well. So I guess in Malaysia, we can only rear other animals besides than pigs and cows. Come on Dr. M, you have ruled this country for 22 years and you do not remember that this is a multi-racial country? Stop the racial discrimination, this country should be a free country and everyone with different religion views should have self-control. Know what you can do and what u cannot do!!
Excuse me Dr. M, this is Malaysia and there are other races in this country as well. So if pig cannot be reared in this country, so should cow!! Some Buddhist they do not eat beef and I believe some Indian as well. So I guess in Malaysia, we can only rear other animals besides than pigs and cows. Come on Dr. M, you have ruled this country for 22 years and you do not remember that this is a multi-racial country? Stop the racial discrimination, this country should be a free country and everyone with different religion views should have self-control. Know what you can do and what u cannot do!!
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written by pemerhati PAS, October 07, 2009
written by pemerhati PAS, October 07, 2009
Pakatan should take Tun's view as a lesson as true enough we obviously are fighting among ourselves. Let's get united and bring BN down. By the way, where is Anwar, he should be around. As a leader of pakatan, he's should be a medium man not running away frm controversies that cloud Pakatan. Often when controversial issue spark, he 's not around , busy attending seminars, talks, meetings overseas. Dey, Anwar...you are still not yet the PM, pls focus at Pakatan and take over the Govt first, then you wana go to overseas attending or giving talks forever pun takpe lah. Ini asyik oversea saja....kaya sgt ka...mana dpt duit. BN kasi ka?
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written by 14th apostle, October 08, 2009
written by 14th apostle, October 08, 2009
In the run-up to the last GE when he was outside UMNO, Mahathir urged the rakyat to reject corrupt candidates by voting them out. Now that he is back in UMNO again, and his son is made a deputy minister he becomes a different man. Wonder what is holding him back from calling on the voters in Bagan Pinang to reject Isa Samad because of his corruption offence? Mahathir is known to say one thing today and contradicts himself tomorrow. This is not due to his age. I think he is a political chamelion; changing his colour to suit the situation.
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