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Dont forget okc was the minister, sec-gen, state chief cum principal of mca's school of political studies when he was defeated by chua soi lek in the 2008 mca poll. Okc was then supported strongly by his brother ong ka ting who was the president. Okc objected to mca unity plan and wants a fresh poll because he thinks he would come back to become mca's sec-gen. This fellow who served four terms as Perak exco member should retire now and give way to some younger leaders if he really loves the party as he claims.

You are talking nonsense. Your interpretation of the result of the EGM is absolutely unacceptable. In actual facts, what OTK & CSL doing now is exactly complying to the call of the Central Delegates. The outcome of EGM clearly indicate that the CD wants OTK to continue to be President (less than 2/3 majority vote for the 1st resolution), however, they want OTK to change his style of leading the party, they want him to work with CSL again and bring reformation to MCA. Please tell me where the hell the assumption of the CD reject OTK as president. No confident & expulsion is totally different, confidence can be regained, and OTK does not remain as president how is he going to regain the confidence of the CD. In your case it is different, you lost to CSL in the last election by a small margin, but, that is 'rejected or voted out', that means you can only re-contest in the next party election which is 2 years from now. Therefore, do not take a shut cut by calling others to get out and pave way for your re-entrance.

In so far as the MCA leadership tussle continues, our President - elect OTK has not imposed any GAG ORDER to MCA members to stop harping on 2nd EGM by the minority disgruntlers or rather self-centred troublemakers.
We wonder how long can OTK can hold this democratic stand !

Why not go to the root of the problem? Was it Ling Liong Sik's time that all these things were seeded and climax now? Too long in the MCA leadership caused the trouble to fester and brew. Follow the leader. Who cares about the party? It is all about themselves!

Liar. LTL should not have himself appointed the Deptuty President when Datuk CSL had not exhausted all constitutionally sanctioned avenues to clarify his position in the party after the EGM. Turning to ROS being the governing body is politically, constitutionally and morally correct. As a former Sec Gen. of the party I am disappointed with your half-baked views.
His appointment is automatically null and void for not following procedure in a democratic party like MCA. If everyone starts to act like LTL with you as an advisor, the party would be in anarchy.

It is high time the leaders of MCA do something concrete instead of coming out everyday with one Leader after another Condemning this and Condemning that which is not solving but aggravating the situation. The best thing to do is to have a President elected again by all the MCA members whom they think can salvaged this crisis which is turning into a Circus.

This OKC talk through his arse. Everybody knows that his younger is the biggest snake behind the 3rd force that is creating the problem. Without these idiottic snakes i.e OKT, CKC and the Rotten Fishhead the problems in MCA would have been solved with the implementation of the GUP by OTK and CSL and the idiot OKC got the cheek to say that the problems are created by OTK and CSL.

The CONSTITUTION of the party is supreme. The president of the party and also all principal office bearers ought to uphold the constitution. Thus Article 35 has to be applied pertaining to the outcome of the EGM. Being the ex-secretary general I am very disappointed that you are actually not well versed with the constitution and the interpretation of each article.

The Resolution 2 in the proposed illegal 2nd EGM which reads: "That all appointments, terminations or pledges made after the 10th Oct 2009 EGM by YB Dato Sri Ong Tee Keat in his capacity as President of the MCA be nullified".
Resolution 2 contravene with Article 166 which reads: Unless otherwise provided for in this Constitution, where powers are conferred on any person or body in this Constitution to appoint, such person or body shall also have the power to terminate such appointment in like manner.

Article 166 needs to be amended before Resolution 2 can be proposed in the AGM/AGM. Even if Resolution 2 is endorsed by the EGM it cannot be implemented as it is against Article 166.
Any action or resolutions to be passed by the AGM/EGM have to conform with the constitution of party before it could be applied. You need to amend the article in relation to the resolution proposed.

I have been dealing with ROS being actively involved in NGOs, and from my experience 2nd EGM is not costitutionally called. Just call off the EGM and work with the majority of the CCMs who have voiced and pledged to support the GUP for the unity of the party.

Ong and Chua has a combined support of more than 90%. A fresh vote may eliminate Liow and his men. Is that good for the party? There is no reason why Ong and Chua could not stand again, if the real aim is to obtain a fresh mandate.

Why not go further and blame your own brother OKT and CKC the previous leaders.
Initially said not neccessary to hold EGM because cost is high and waste money. Then when things swing around not in his favour, decide to call for EGM. Looking at the whole scenario, those at CC, holding minister post, appointed senator or etc are aiming at more on own benefits. Saying it is for party sake, is total bulshits.
Why not use normal exercise with facts and proof, if possible get signatures, OK.

Previous crises, Tan & Neo, Lim & Ling, they are all fighting for the No. 1 post. In the case of OTK & CSL, it was never a No.2 going for No.1 post. All No.2 wants is not to be sideline and to have a fair share of his supporters in the positions.

Now that the 2 are willing to set a side their diferences and work together through GUP, the whole episode should end there. Afterall, the crises is between 2 individuals only. I don't understand why Brutus Liow and the gang are creating a fuss.

Why not OKC suggest to to his BN colleagues to hold a fresh poll in Perak too? The situation there is more teruk .... 2 governments!

Ong, you are a disgrace to the ONG clan. Just keep your mouth shut and stay out of sight. Nobody in and out of MCA wants to hear or see anything from you. Get lost.

The CONSTITUTION of the party is supreme. Every member irrespective of his position in the party including all the principal office bearers ought to uphold the constitution. In the event of doubt with regard to any dispute, the directives or interpretation pertaining to the Articles or Rules made by ROS have to be respected and executed. The constitution of the party was drafted, accepted and endorsed by the party through its AGM/EGM was submitted to the ROS and subsequently approved by it for the party to function legally. Any articles or rules deemed no longer applicable should be amended. For any resolution passed during AGM/EGM to be applicable or carried out legally it must conform with the constitution of the party.

Thus during the 1st EGM, the outcome of the Resolution 1 did not vote out the President as Article 35 is crystal clear. Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat is still constitutionally the President of the Party. I beg to differ from the view of Datuk Seri OKC the ex secretary general MCA who said that Datuk Seri OTK ceased to be President after the EGM.
I am very disappointed that he should be so naïve and unable to interpret such a simple and straight forward Article 35 of the constitution. Be sincere and conscientious when dealing with such a serious matter.

In Datuk Seri CLS’s case Datuk Seri Ong Ka Chuan tried to divert the blame to both CSL and OTK which is very irresponsible. As Datuk Seri CSL’s had clarified, he had already advised Datuk Sri LTL against the ploy to be appointed the Deputy President as he had written to the ROS for clarification pertaining to his post. Unfortunately, LTL and his cohorts were too impatient. At the same time, the ex legal bureau chairman also has much to be blamed as he had wrongly advised LTL regarding the matter. ROS is the governing body to all the legally registered societies in Malaysia including MCA, thus its directives or interpretation of the constitution are binding. Consequently, in the case of DS CSL, ROS stated that the Deputy President post has not been vacant after the 1st EGM thus again Datuk Seri Chua So Lek is the undisputed Deputy President. of the party.

I hope Datuk Seri Ong Ka Chuan would advise LTL and cohorts that being the minority they should work with the President who enjoys the majority support of the CCMs and not trying to champion for the indiscipline lost souls. The GUP was tabled by the President, deliberated at the CC meeting, accepted and sanctioned by at least 30 of the 43 CCMs. LTL and his cohorts being the principal office bearers are constitutionally bound to adopt and implement GUP. This is DEMOCRACY which he has been saying to uphold.

The party will not face deregistration if the party functions according to the constitution and always abide by the interpretation and directives of ROS. I have been dealing with ROS for decades being actively involved in NGOs and I am confident that by informing and getting clarification from ROS and abide by it will not land MCA in hot soup.

Chua should ask Ka Chuan what post he wants and offer to him. All MCA ppl are just greedy and want to take advantage for themselve only and never think of the chinese people. DAP is better or even PKR also better than them, even Nik Aziz is better.

Just figure out the relationship with the relevant warlords, are they the 3rd force ??
If yes, they betray to all members of MCA.
Another opportunist ???
Too bad for MCA, too many opportunists......

I used to support MCA for the past good work on KTAR and UTAR, but this power struggle thing is darned disgraceful to the chinese community and bring shame to ppl like me who voted for them.

You are right, OKC. The top 2 are persons without any sense of accountability. MCA is down the tube. It is all because of the plan supported by Najib. UMNO is laughing away looking at the leadership of MCA. A weak MCA is good for UMNO such that they can remain Tuan in BN.

The crisis in MCA is not over since then president Ling liong sik time, only change faces but agenda is the same.
Most best way to solved is dissolved MCA now, re registred again by fresh election NOT BY delegates in MCA but chinese ppl at large..whole Malaysia.
All the post,Commitees,..etc must resigned. total clean up.Let the people vote who they trust.
if not..the `drama series will continue to 40 episode!!' spoiler for umno on BN..PM could be reject MCA from BN.
Then dont blame ppl but yourselves.

Another component of the 3rd force, who having lost in the last elections, is now trying to make a comeback. The Chinese are sick and tired of reading about this MCA crisis. EGM and EGM. Every one of this leader say they want peace and democracy. In the meantime who thinks about the Chinese? It reinforces the belief of the people that MCA is a party for businessmen and for those who are out to fill their pockets.

Datuk Seri OKC, may I ask you what was Datuk Leong the ex MCA Legal Bureau chairman doing at that time. He attended the CC meeting which saw LTL being elected Deputy President of the Party. Being paid handsomely monthly, don't you think it was his responsibility to advise the party pertaining the legality of the appointment. Do not twist and turn to save some people skin by blaming OTK and CSL.

OTK and CSL was the original elected President and Deputy President of the MCA for whatever it means. Now that they have came together due to whatever circumstances it is still back to status quo, to where they were when the delegate voted them, nevermind the result of the later EGM. Heaven has now mandate them to unify the party in the way, in the manner that will not result in, or required the interference of umno. This is the most importance and crucial point. umno, has all the hidden agenda to destroy or weaken the MCA further. You guys in the leadership of the MCA should be careful, lest you want to cause the MCA into oblivion. You should all now return to the immediate post MCA election position with a difference. That difference is the close cooperation between the President and the Deputy President working together, unlike the squabbles earlier. And you should now work together on an agenda to strengthen your position against umno and make your equal, not lapped dog. If you can do that, you will survive. If you can't, find a way to let the party live another day. And if not, better off let the tree fall and you all monkeys and each scramble your own way out of it.