SEPT 3 — I am a Malay Singaporean and I am proud of it — though the label “Malay Singaporean” often seems to make little sense to people outside of South-east Asia.
In my travels to other countries and in my current place of residence in the United States, I am often quizzed as to the meaning of this label. “You mean, you are Malaysian?” I am asked. Or: “I thought Malays are Malaysians?”
My answer, each time, is “no”. Regardless of how often I have to repeat myself, I try, each time, to explain the differences between Malay Singaporeans and Malay Malaysians. I say that history had united us and then separated us. Political leaderships and national policies have made us very distinct from one another.
This was not always the case. For many years after Separation, the racial and religious identities of Malay Muslims in Malaysia and Singapore took precedence over their national identities.
However, things have changed drastically over the past few decades and much of that has to do with how politics shaped the two communities.
I first realised how different I am from Malay Malaysians when I stayed in a kampung in Negri Sembilan for a week. I was there for a mini research project with some students — a mix of Chinese, Malay and Indian Singaporeans, plus a few foreigners. We stayed with host families in a Malay village.
After the first four days in the village, I felt something was amiss. I could not put a finger on what it was. It was only when I was hanging out at a roadside stall and saw a Chinese man that it dawned on me what I was missing: I had not seen a single non-Malay person (outside of my student group) for four whole days!
The Chinese in the area lived in a separate village across the street while the Indians lived in yet another village near some plantations. In Seremban, I saw a building for a Chinese leisure club and another for Malay games or social activities.
Singapore was once like that. But over the decades, it changed. Every day now, when we step out of our flats, we see our Chinese, Indian and perhaps Eurasian neighbours. We share the same lifts, corridors, void decks, community parks and common spaces. We go to the same schools and workplaces. Our parliamentary representatives are multiracial. Malay Singaporeans are as much a part of the everyday realities of Chinese, Indian and Eurasian Singaporeans as they are of ours. This cannot be said of Malay and non-Malay Malaysians. In short, Malay Malaysians and Malay Singaporeans live in different political and social realities.
In a recent column published in Utusan Malaysia, former Malaysian information minister Zainuddin Maidin said that Malaysia’s current racial controversies mirror the issues that surfaced in the country during the May 1969 riots. He also said that Malaysia was right to remove Singapore as it had been a thorn in Malaysia’s flesh. The “poison...spilled by Kuan Yew more than 40 years ago,” he suggested, is the reason race relations remain fraught in Malaysia.
I wonder how wanting a system that promises equality for all, as compared to one that is biased and discriminating, can be “poison”. Well, perhaps one man’s meat is another man’s “poison”. Thanks to the “meat”, Singapore has become a city state where different races co-exist peacefully and all benefit from a meritocratic system.
Should Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew have ruled Singapore using the Malaysian “model”, with discriminatory policies favouring one racial group over others, people like me might have failed to enter university though our grades are good while people of another race are admitted though their grades are poor. We would then, understandably, have felt aggrieved and over time this would have manifested itself in unpleasant social tensions.
This brings me to Datuk Seri Zainuddin’s comment that “Singapore sticks to a Third World democracy despite having a developed world mentality while Malaysia has a Third World mentality but a developed world democracy”.
I accept his point that Singapore has a developed world mentality and do not deny that Singapore’s democracy is not like that of other First World countries’. Whether we will be better off having such a democracy is another debate altogether. However, I think Singapore has greater political, economic and social democracy than Malaysia. There is no money politics here, and our system of equity based on merit pervades almost all sectors of our society.
Singapore has changed phenomenally since its separation from Malaysia. There are still challenges to overcome in the different communities, including among Malay Singaporeans, but we are at least at peace with one another.
History teaches great lessons – but only to those who want to learn from it. — The Straits Times

written by matteo, September 03, 2009
Your mind is free. You don't have unrealistic self doubt and inferiority complex.
No you have confidence in yourself and what you want and you are ready to go for it. You don't blame anyone if you fail but will examine and work harder and you will always improve yourself.
You stand tall and do not fear others and can interact on equal term with every human being on the planet.
No you are not a Zainuddin Maidin for sure. You talk sense.
written by swipenter, September 03, 2009
They have outperformed us in every sense of the word and yet we(the Umno Polticians) are still deluding ourselves that we are somehow better than them. In what ways? The great advantages we have are human and natural resources over them. The former we dont value and the latter we squander. We were more or less on par when Singapore was "kicked out" but now we dont even dare use Singapore as a benchmark for our progress and success. Soon we cant even benchmark ourselves against Indonesia, Thailand or Vietnam. We are like the Phillippines now.
So much for the kind of racial and divide and rule politics of Umno and where it has taken us compare to Singapore, HK, South Korea and Taiwan; miles behind them now where we used to be the more developed one amongst them in 1970s. Now we are anxiously waiting for Thailand, Indonesia and Vietnam to overtake us and we are still wondering why and denying the what others are saying, seeing experiencing and achieving
written by Mira, September 03, 2009
written by cherasusie, September 03, 2009
u ve spoken out for us malaysian...
may sinaporean malays and all singaporeans live happily forever.
written by tony, September 03, 2009
written by Henry Liew, September 03, 2009
I live in a community, Damansara Damai that was carved out of a vast forest reserve near Sungei Buloh, Selangor. The carved out land was given to a Bumi company, MK Land to be developed into a township. This place has low-cost, middle-range houses and two condos. However, I think it is part of the past Selangor government's social engineering to place Malays to urban, if not possible to suburban areas.
A cursory look of the areas found alot of the shop-lots and condos that are reserved for Bumis were not taken, even it comes along with sizeable discounted prices. However, what the government failed to do, social dynamics takes its own natural course. Because of the reasonable low cost of the condos and houses as compared with other housing projects, encourged many middle class non-bumis to purchase houses and settle down.
If people would step into this township just before the Sungei Buloh Toll gate will find the Muhibbah spirit present here. The Malays brought their simple kampong lifestlye, the Chinese accentuated the place with their enterpreneurship and consumership resulting a state of ambience. From the chaotic kampong traffic with motor-bikes coming from different directions without regards for rules and order - just like my village. Yet at the same time we find the best of the Indian, Malay and Chinese foods being served here.
Most of all, one finds a high degree of tolerance among the race here. At least for me, as I live in one of the condos, daily I meet people from different races in lifts, gyms, swimming pool. Interestingly, as I tried to converse with other races in Bahasa Malaysia, most Malays were respond in English! It is the Fasting month - every evening one finds different races patronising the stalls serving a great variety of exotic Malaysian dishes.
My prayer, let peace and goodwill always prevail in this place!
written by Dinozilla, September 03, 2009
certainly is different from one that lives in bribery, money politics, cronies
written by Joe, September 03, 2009
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written by SingaRedDevil3989, September 03, 2009
You are in a severe state of Denial man! It's either you refuse to accept the spoken truth about reality or you chose to be dumb-dumb! My sympathies and condolences for a dead mind/brain. LOL
written by Aries, September 03, 2009
Of course, he beats our own Zainuddin on most counts.
Malaysian Malays have lots to learn from Singaporean Malays.
written by Arul Inthirarajah, September 03, 2009
written by michael, September 03, 2009
Ha..ha.. as if in Malaysian Armed Forces you can see many high ranking positions for non malays???
written by buah pala, September 03, 2009
seem malaysia n singapore do have a common thing
written by Abdul Said, September 03, 2009
written by greateagle, September 03, 2009
written by LWC, September 03, 2009
Tengku_a: I'm not so well versed with research on the Internet. Can you elaborate on your findings? Can you point us the way?
written by Joe Public, September 03, 2009
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written by Robert, September 03, 2009
If you don't have a meritrocratic system, you are basically throwing away a lot of good apples that are delicious and good for the country.
written by Mouseking, September 03, 2009
written by Molineux, September 03, 2009
There is no need to argue this statement of fact.
Malaysia has much much more political freedom and not too much of all of the above.
You stay in Malaysia, you can express yourself, it makes feels like home always, even as a minority.
If you you are poor - it is better to go to Singapore where you'll have a much better chance of getting to a better social and economic life whether you are a Malay, Chinese or Indian.
If you are rich enough- which country is better?
Singapore made me rich, so I always dream of coming back to Malaysia but has not done so....Staying as a Malaysian and feeling Malaysian but living in Singapore is not a choice but a necessity.
written by Buckaroo Banzai, September 03, 2009
Hail Singapore! Hail!
written by part time fisher, September 03, 2009
written by Kapten Ciku, September 04, 2009
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written by bexe, September 04, 2009
written by Arul Inthirarajah, September 04, 2009
The 70:20:10 allocation ratio for HDB flats in Singapore is actually biased in FAVOUR of the Malays, and not against them. The racial breakdown in Singapore is 75% Chinese, 13% Malay, and 11% Indian and Others. That means they get a 50% higher allocation than what they would normally get, if the pie was divided equally. The allocation ratio helps to prevent the formation of racial enclaves, which is what you have in Shah Alam for example. By having people of different races living together, it helps to promote a better understanding of each others way of life, and general racial harmony. It's not perfect, but it's a step in the right direction.
For your point on senior Malay officers in the SAF, this has already been countered in numerous posts before yours. You might want to read and reflect on the opportunities denied to non-Malays in Malaysia.
Freedom of expression in Malaysia ? Just don't wear a black shirt or light a candle. If you want to, then carry a cow's head with you. Don't leave home without it. It's UMNO's American Express Card.
written by LWC, September 04, 2009
To those who are living in big houses, driving big cars, etc. it's because of themselves. Just like if you see a Malay living in a small house in KL doesn't mean he's discriminated. It's his own initiatives many times. God help those who help themselves. Don't blame others if you remain poor with all the opportunities available.
In Malaysia, a Chinese can be smart but discriminated from entering their own local third class universities and will be too poor to enter foreign universities. So he'll apply for ASEAN or other Singapore scholarships and end up settting up roots in Singapore. Who gains? That student and Singapore. Who lost? Nobody cos Malaysia never did want his kind anyways.
written by Angel TanWC, September 04, 2009
written by Anak Kedah, September 04, 2009
The country needs to get rid of these two parties, UMNO and BN. Once it is done, there will be opportunity for healing. However, it may take another 50 years or so.
As a Kedahan, I despise him for his greatest failure in uniting the people for his own selfish 22 years of autocratic rule.
written by greateagle, September 04, 2009
your allocation ratio for housing does make sense and i now understand what is the reason for Kartini's stand on her stay in Seremban.There is no point in reasoning to people with Cow(head)sense.
written by Iskandaria Masduki, September 04, 2009
But then I migrated to the the U.S. and had to fight tooth and nail for economic survival in a land where I'm just one of the millions of migrants looking for better opportunities. I then began to appreciate the hard work and competitive spirit molded by the Singaporean environment. As a country limited in resources, we had to compete for the best places in education, in housing, in career advancement.
After the initial struggle to gain a footing in the U.S. I'm thriving, thanks to the work ethics and competitive spirit gleaned from my upbringing. I don't take things for granted and I like to presume that people are generally good; and if you prove yourself as professional and capable then you will be given the well-deserved opportunities.
It's easy to blame other races for our misfortunes (ok, maybe in some cases, it may be true). But it's also a self-defeating mindset because it shifts the balance of power to the other person instead of within yourself to make good things happen and to change your current state of existence. When you go into a situation expecting to be discriminated against, then you've already lost. Your body language, your whole approach to the situation, and your interpretation of behaviors are already skewed towards failure. So think positive and try to forget the color of the skin, or their strange accents, or their unique customs and look at the more important things like personality, capability and experience.
If we don't start making changes within ourselves to look beyond race and judge a person by his or her deeds & capabilities, then such problems will continue to breed and fester and someday may even be beyond repair. As Winston Churchill said, "If not now, then when; if not us, then who?"
written by Abdul , September 04, 2009
He stupidly claimed that the malays in singapore are being bullied by the chinese.. and he stupidly sympathized with the malays living in singapore....
So now i know, the malays there are actually sympathizing with us the malays here... "how pathetic we are"... till now we are still playing the racist cards...
Thanks...idiotic son in law of ex PM of one country...did you buy your degree ?
written by Mouseking, September 04, 2009
Singapore -- 44 years -- Malay BG in Army. Confirm.
USA -- 200+years -- General in Army and President.
I think Singapore is not doing too bad.
written by Melvin, September 04, 2009
I travel to Malaysia often for holidays and noticed Malays living in palaces and big bungalows. Singapore Malays are trapped in HDB flats with very very few living in condos and private houses. When I walked into Civil Defence establishments, Malays NSmen become Jagas because they have no place in our defence force.
Kartini should spend more time thinking and contributing to the Malay course than to compare with others. We do not hold high regards on your community as you don't even speak out about your problem. We read many reports in the papers where Malays commit infanticied, child abuses, drug consumption and failures in education since many years ago and never end.
written by Meeska, September 04, 2009
Kita tunggu kita lihat, Kita nanti kita perhati, Jgn merungut biar berjanggut, Diam akur
Kita mesti patuh, Acuh tak acuh endah tak endah, Buat lawak bodoh terlampau, Biar kita melopong
Biar kita menganga, Biar mereka buat apa mereka suka, Biar saja
Jangan melawan, Jangan membantah, Janganlah degil kena ikut perintah
Kena banyak diam, Biar apa orang kata, Kita tawa dalam duka
Kecut takut, Kalut kolot, Terkunci mulut, Bergaduh bertutur
Kalah sabung menang sorak, Tiba masa kita gerak..."
-Song "Angguk-anguk, Geleng Geleng" by Malay Singaporean Rap Group, Ahli Fiqir.
written by Kilo, September 04, 2009
I am really proud of you for standing up to the nonsensical statements by our former Minister.
Second, it showed your maturity in outlook in this age and times where our real 'enemies' are not within our countries, but the global competition that is raging as we speak.
Thirdly, you demonstarted that being Malay is not a handicap. I do believe the same. Just that the Malays in Msia has been hijacked by selfish politicial aiming only to enrich themselves.
I am so glad for you that Spore made the right choice to oppose this 52 years old mentality.
Syabas!
written by Ling, September 04, 2009
written by eksk, September 04, 2009
but i dont think you'd dare do it because you are kiasu... otherwise you'd have done it a long time ago... Deep down you know you are better off in Singapore...
written by Mouseking, September 04, 2009
There are currently 100~200K singaporean working and studying overseas, i.e. living oversea. These Singaporean are from all races. What is so amiss when a singaporean is writing from overseas? I have lived and worked oversea before, do you have an issue with that? Maybe that is what you called cosmopolitan?
written by Khartini Khalid, September 05, 2009
@freefromsg - I am only in the US to do my masters. It's temporary. :)
written by eksk, September 05, 2009
so the Malay society in Malaysia got not shortfall and no problems as compared to the Malay society in Singapore?
written by Alfian Sa'at, September 05, 2009
Excerpt:
On 3rd September 2009, both the Straits Times and the Malaysian Insider carried the article ‘Proud To Be Malay Singaporean’. Written by Khartini Khalid, the article addresses among many things a statement made by former Malaysian Information Minister Datuk Zainuddin Maidin in the newspaper Utusan Malaysia.
In his column, the venerable Datuk made references to Singapore while discussing Malaysia’s current racial controversies. According to him, the main reason then Prime Minister Tunku Abdul Rahman decided to kick Singapore out of Malaysia was ‘the speech made by its then Prime Minister, Lee Kuan Yew, in the Malaysian Parliament in May 1965 questioning the Malay government in Malaysia.’
This statement isn’t really about Singapore but a variation of the spooky ethno-nationalist warning against minorities who question the notion of Malay supremacy (as enshrined in Article 153 of the Malaysian Federal Constitution). Malaysian Home Affairs Minister Hishamuddin Hussein might wave a keris to make this point. Another politician might raise the spectre of the May 13 Incident.
Zainuddin had chosen to invoke the expulsion of Singapore. His message: ‘Don’t you dare challenge Article 153, or we’ll kick you out.’ Nevertheless, Khartini Khalid has seen it as her patriotic duty to defend Singapore from a perceived attack. And thus she begins her column with the line: ‘I am a Malay Singaporean and proud of it.’
It’s one thing to say, ‘I am a Singaporean and proud of it.’ It’s another to bring attention to the fact that you’re Malay. It’s quite obvious that the writer meant: ‘Boy, am I glad I’m not a Malay Malaysian! I can hold my head up high knowing that I never relied on crutches and handouts. As Whitney Houston’s song goes, I tried it on my own.’
written by greateagle, September 05, 2009
written by Melvin, September 06, 2009
written by Hitokiri Yusoff, September 06, 2009
Did most of you bother to read this part at the end of the article: "The Straits Times".
Obviously this is some propaganda from the PAP spinmasters. Sure its not perfect here in Malaysia. After all the BN government would prefer if the races are divided. BUT, that doesn't mean that Singapore is some heaven on Earth for people here to dream and wank of to.
written by Khartini Khalid, September 06, 2009
You've also asked the right question. Let me pose it back to you. What have you done for your community?
Actually I notice from my interactions and personal observations of some of the Chinese in Malaysia (and perhaps Indonesia) - they have a tremendous amount of drive and resilience in them. Perhaps this came about due to the challenges they face. It is quite admirable how some of them have held up to the system. Any thoughts on this anyone?
written by Tun Perak, September 06, 2009
so what next? any singaporean would like to shared who great they
are, compared to their fellow race who happen to be Malaysian?
written by Mouseking, September 06, 2009
Do you have connection in UMNO? If yes, then I encourage you to migrate to Malaysia immediately and try to extract as much "juice" as possible before UMNO loses its power.
If you have no connection in UMNO then I think you have better recalibrate your mindset bcos nowhere else is ideal for you.
written by belutt, September 06, 2009
written by greateagle, September 06, 2009
written by Melvin, September 06, 2009
What have I done formy community? I don't need to. My community has been successful due to our culture and financial resources. We prosper better than you because our forefathers brought the trade and expertise from overseas and apply them here. The British who were trade concious provide the platform for us to perform. With numerous resources we helped to built Singapore as the successful trading centre and at the same time enrich ourselves in the process. we have our own self help group before you set up MENDAKI and up to today we still practise them except more sophisticated and well distributed.
Well I agree with you on the resilience of the Chinese/Indian minorities in our neighbouring countries but how about you and the Malay community in Singapore? You seems to create the impression that you are living well in Singapore but with all the socio-economic problems you are facing I cannot say the same.
written by greateagle, September 06, 2009
written by sg chinese, September 06, 2009
as a chinese, i am embarassed by your arrogance and bigotry. I am confident Kartini is mature enough not to allow such chauvinism to sway her worldview.
written by TG, September 07, 2009
One thing is to quote history, another is to mis-represent it, as seen in the case of Datuk Zainudin. Boy am I glad that my dear Chinese friends in Singapore do not think like the way you do.
written by Khartini Khalid, September 07, 2009
The ML community in Singapore has its issues. I do some volunteer work at the national level and I do see some issues which need attention. When I was in the ML newspaper working as a journalist, we have to keep abreast on these issues all the time. So it is v much in my consciousness. But I think we have also made progress. In one generation you can see children who are educated, doing relatively well, etc etc. But there are those in a quagmire of social problems.
Like I said, we can do better but we could also be worse off, really, if the political system was different.
I really hope Malaysia will solve its issues and that it will be prosperous, peaceful and progressive. It is a different society and with race and religion all intertwined with politics it makes things all the more complex. But it would be in everyone's best interests to have Malaysia prosper. It can only be good for us (Singapore) and for the region. But having 'melatah' statements like what was in the Utusan article does not help much.
written by Melvin, September 07, 2009
I begin to like your style and please do not misjudge me. I am equally concern with your community as we are Singaporeans. I may sound arrogant in what I have said but I need you back into this tread. Actually I am closer to the Malay community than you can imagine. As a Peranakan and having relatives in Malaysia I have the better views of the Malay community on both sides of the causeway.
The Malays in Malaysia wants to be the masters as they think it is their constitutional right. And because there are challenges from other races the Malays feel insecured and threatened. So they react. An Datuk Zainudin Maidin is no exception. But there are many Malaysian Malays who think that they cannot carry on like this anymore as it affects the country's social fabric andprogress. So the emergence of the Pakatan Raayat. How successful Pakatan R going to be is still unsure. But there are signs that things going to improve and in a democratic society like Malaysia there bound to be elements from every corner trying to sabotage to further their political interests. It is a game when you have a delicate ethnic balance of 60% + 30% + 10%. How you tread the thin wire is very important. Hopefully the Malays are split 50-50 and we can have a true multi-racial society. Another question is how long can Pakatan R survive? Things could get worse as there are extreemists who dare to do anything to turn their fortune. So we cannot just simply dismiss that this society is going to remain static and the discrimination persist. They have to evolve and hopefully the RIGHT direction.
Singapore is entirely a different entity. The 75% + 15% + 10% ethnic balance tilt in favour of the Chinese community. The Chinese do not feel threatened and can continue to concentrate on other aspects of life. Everybody prospers and with good government and governance we share the wealth. But Singapore Malays are slow to progress despite having MENDAKI and a sizeable group of Malay MPs who supposed to look into the Malay affairs on top of representing the citizens within their constituency. What could be the underlying causes that have perpetuated till today? The Malays are not speaking up. They take what the government says. Quota for HDBs until it become so difficult for them to sell their flats. They find it difficult to move near their relatives and parents as the quota has been taken up. And worst we noticed that the taken up rate of bigger flats by the Malays are diminishing. Obviously this is associated with affordability. Why are you not complaining? We heard about closed door discussions to resolve issues affecting the community but where are the results, the true solutions to this?
Another thing that we always hear from foreign news about the role of the Malay community in the SAF. I spoke to my Malay friends and to my surprise they prefer to leave it to God. Is it the fear? Or they have simply gave up? I remember during my NS days there were many capable regular Malay officers and men. And many I believe can make the grade. But why is our government prevent them from joining the navy and the air force? If trust is the issue I think it is time for the Malay community to stand up and demolish this misconception. You are different from the Malaysian Malays and I know that all of you Malay Singaporeans out there are true Singaporean at heart.
written by greateagle, September 08, 2009
written by swipenter, September 08, 2009
Have you heard of "rezeki" something akin to "predestination" or leaving it to the will of God. If your thinking is pervaded with this kind of thoughts then how can God help those who dont help themselves?
You may not agree with me but most Chinese believe that their fate lies in their own hands and has very little to do with "rezeki". Even if as a Chinese and if you make it in life you give thanks to God (assuming you are religious and believe in God) for God help those who help themselves. And if you dont make it you dont blame it on "rezeki", you blame yourself and take personal responsibilty for your success or failure.
As a descendant of an immigrant you must also ask yourself the question why did your ancestors migrate to Singapore? Most of our forefathers and grandfathers migrate to survive and out of necessity and not for a better lifestyle as some modern immigrants do. Many died and those who made it are the more resilient ones and our forefathers taught us the importance of fighting (learning) for your survival for your fate depends on what you do (or dont do) and nobody else.
As for the Nyonya Babas you guys were the first to be educated in English and so the colonial English gave you jobs bcos they needed locals who were able to speak the local language and English to act as intermediaries and probably as agents to sell their goods for them. They were the tuans and you worked for them whether as workers or trading agents. All the hard work for little gain but as immigrants and/or Nyonya Babas you were grateful for the chance and opportunity given and you build your fortunes on that slowly generation by generation. Skills have to be learnt and not inherited and not from some kind of special genes you inherit from your parents nor are special rights inherited from parents.
What I am saying is when you are given special opportunity like MENDAKI or NEP you must make full use of it to better yourself to become independent and compete with anyone for survival and not depend on it for survival. If you dont make full use of special assistance available then you take personal responsibilty for your decision.
written by Khartini Khalid, September 08, 2009
Thanks. This is a good exchange.
On Pakatan : I wonder if the different components can come together and get their act together. I suppose the problem is they are too different. Perhaps they should focus on turning the states that they won over in the last GE into model societies so that they'll have concrete examples to show to the rest of Malaysia that their model works. I don't know if I am being too idealistic here...maybe. What do you/others think?
Actually if there are people who live in the states that are now run by the Pakatan parties - I'm quite interested to know how or if life has changed in some ways since they took over (ok, apart from having the traffic summonses waived at one point, he he). Comments?
written by Melvin, September 08, 2009
I really cannot understand what you are trying to put across. I see no relevence or connection in what you wrote with what I have said. Don't bother to reply as you may confuse the who;e thing.
written by Melvin, September 08, 2009
This is the first time that PR governs the states and there are two forces acting against them. One is the BN trying to topple the state government under PR in which they have succeeded in Perak, and the other is the corrupted PR lawmakers within. The PR's life is not made easy either by the judiciary and the law enforcers who evidently affiliated themselves with the government of the day.
Their success depends on their fortitute and steadfastness facing many challenges from within and BN. There are elements that are trying to make gains from this struggle for power and the recent speeches of Malay Unity Talk with UMNO by PAS supreme council members and the cases involving the sale of alcohol and relocation of the Hindu temple in Shah Alam do not help. Nevertheless the timely intervention by Tok Guru and the good working relationship between PAS, DAP and PKR senior members has preserved the loose coalition so far.
The outcome of Anwars's sodomy case may eventually determine the fate of PR.
How about the questions I asked you in my last posting? Are you changing the subject?
written by Khartini Khalid, September 09, 2009
1. I do not think selling flats because of the racial quota policy is a big problem. More critical issues are of bread-and-butter issues for a sector of the community. I.e living within their means (with the increasing costs of living), skills upgrading...and social issues like divorces, remarriages, not thinking only about short term gains (like some people sell off their flats and get some cash and then run out of cash and apply for subsidised rental flats which are extremely in high demand and should go to those more needy) etc. I can go on and on about a whole list.
As for the SAF issue - we have a Malay/Muslim BG now. I disagree with the policy they had before because it was discriminatory even though I understand the geopolitical needs + social dynamics decades ago during the separation period made it a different society from what Singapore Malays are today. I too wish to see Malay naval officers, and whatever else in the army but I think there are so many other fields too that we can succeed and excel and do better.
Actually why can't I ask about other topics? I would v much like to hear about Malaysia from Malaysians so please remember this is not an exclusive forum between just you and I. I am at liberty to answer/comment on anything just as you are. :)
written by Melvin, September 09, 2009
I live all along in SG but communte to Msia regularly holidaying and meeting relatives and friends. Being proficient also in Bahasa I have the best of the two. Why you asked?
written by Melvin, September 09, 2009
You must compare with others who have benefitted or got an easy way to get what they want. I am not talking strictly on capital gain alone in matters related to HDB quota system, but the difficullty you are facing when you need to sell your flat. I like the Swiss culture, they pay more attention to the small minority who got affected by the national policy. They go all out to make sure there is fair and justice in implementing policies no matter how small the section of the citizens are affected. Look at you, you easily dismiss the problem of the Malay participation in the SAF as not significant because, as you said, there are other jobs available. Are you not being fair to those who may aspire to make military as their lifetime career? Why two standards? Don't you think that this is discrimination of the worst kind - by making a discrimination a NATIONAL policy? You are unfair to your own community. Are we not the laughing stock of our neighbours by calling ourselves as FIRST WORLD NATION but practises the system of flip flop meritocray? I don't give a damn what they do in Msia but aren't we ashame of ourselves as a so-called developed country?
You said that you worked as a journalist with a ML press? It has to be Berita Harian or ST. BH is a rich breeding ground for future MPs, Malay MPs I mean. I remember there was one Malay journalist who appeared infront of a select committee on minority representation in GRC and next he became a PAP candidate. Maybe by appearing to defend Singapore against Datuk Zainudin's statement you may be groomed to become one. I don't know but if you happen to be chosen, then you have to see whether you can represent the interest of your community no matter how small the very people are affected by government's action and policies. The response from your community on the performance of your Malay MPs has not been favourable.
written by Melvin, September 09, 2009
Not many Malaysians are interested in talking about politics any more. They just simply give up with all the wayangs and abuses. The very most they condemn and call names and we see next the BN ministers making statement to defend the government or the party. Corruption is so ramapant now that they just simply cannot trust anybody. The political system and the administrative services have many perforated base that allmoney will leak and end into the pockets of the politicians including the lawmakers who become state councilors and ministers. The Auditor General Annual Report containing so many "impairments" within the government agencies but even the MACC (former ACA/BPR) doesn't even bother to investigate. The AG and the IGP and the so and so and so are all beholden to the BN. There are many jokers in the government who can't even speak proper English and have no conscience of what they said in the press. Better concentrate on your Masters and come back to help the Malay Singaporean overcome their low esteem.
written by edmund, September 10, 2009
But what I really like abt you is yr attitude towards life. I missed yr fiery and objective way of challenging people to think differently.
Hope to see back in blk 53 soon.
written by Melvin, September 13, 2009
If you are keen to know whether there is a change in the political climate of those states govern by PR, I must say it has to take sometime. Malaysia is not Singapore and the Singapore model is only workable in Singapore. The Federal government is still the BN. Although BN has lost its 2/3 majority, BN can do a lot without having to seek changes in the constitution.
BN is poist to topple the Selangor state government whatever it takes including bringing MACC to investigate Selangor 's PR ADUNs into the plot. Thus the death of Teoh, the political secretary of one of PR's ADUN. The Penang government is unshakeable at this moment but does not mean BN is not doing anything.
PR successes are not related to pure multi-racial composition of its loose coalition. BN has MIC and MCA as well. It is the failure of the BN government to curb corruption and deliver its promises to the people since AAB. That gives PAS and PKR the opportunity to to proof that PAS can be the alternative to the Malay voters.
Presently Malay support is split between BN and PR in terms of the whole of West Malaysia. With this situation the vote from the non-Malays shall determine the failure and success of the PR and the switch in support explains their successes in Selangor, Kedah, Penang and Perak in the last GE.
PR has won 7 out of 8 state assembly by-elections. Next is Bagan Pinang in Negeri Sembilan is up for grap. The ethnic make up is 60+15 +25 (Malay, Chinese and Indian respectively). The Indians are still sore with the cow's head incident and the Chinese are all for PR whether a PKR or PAS candidate is fielded. And if the Malay vote is truely split PR will win. The only stumbling block is the 5,000 postal voters largely from military and government personnel attached to stations outside Negeri Sembilan. In other words if there is a fair play, PR can win hands down.
So you want to know whether voting under racial lines is beginning to fade? No not another 15 to 20 years time. Just like LKY said that the racial composition has to stay to maintain security and stability. That is why the Singapore Malay population is capped at 17% and Singapore brings in non-Malays from Hong Kong, China, Indonesia and Malaysia to "correct" the imbalance. The Malays in Malaysia still want to remain the majority and the dominant party. This present experimentation on greater role and opportunities to non-Malays hopefully will succeed. PAS and PKR realise this is very important and Anwar and Tuk Guru is preserving this delicate balance. DAP just ride on the failures and internal trouble of the MCA.
The fragile balance can be torn apart when the 3 loose compenents of PR cannot co-operate. BN is waiting to pounce on any mistake by PR and the eventual consequences can be worrisome.
written by Nazryn, September 13, 2009
Kartini, the issue of malays in SAF is still a flaming one. The light from the fire is glowing and the heat is too unbearable. Nothing much have changed. One BG does not make an armour unit more receptive of malay recruits, let alone in the air force or navy. For us Malays, being in the military, to defend one's land, is the pride of an individual. A proud moment to be given the task to defend his soil. The government took taht away from us, and yes, publicly declared our questioned loyalty.
So how Kartini? Mr Alfian Saat and Melvin have made their point and I have to say, the values attached to theirs holds more bearing than having to align ourselves with PAP's propaganda.
Have you noticed the irony of nation bulding is in Singapore? One moment we are told to be proud of being a Malay Singaporean, with the emphasis that we are different from our neighbouring counterparts but no distinction has ever been made between Chinese Singaporean and their counterparts ffrom PRC.
Look at the PKMS issue. I do not hold grudges against them nor do I condone their recent vioent outcome. I will be the first to declare that such malay rights party is obsolete and I do not feel affiliated with them. However, our media has been been to friendly without sprouting shots of propaganda and smears. Can we not have a journalistic piece that really drives deep into the community to get real honest opinions from all sectors of the community. How and what they fell about PKMS and its policies...
Melvin, do contact me at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it . Maybe we can discuss abit about our views on this issue. You as a Chinese somehow stood out in the Malay hinterland!
cheers bro
written by Melvin, September 13, 2009
I don't blame you for distancing yourself from PKMS. The committee members of the party have not done much except squable among themselves to take control of the rich assets belonging to the party. The party was once infiltrated but I am not sure of the present situation. It went into alliance with two other political parties called SDA headed by Chiam See Thong and won 30% of the votes each in Jalan Besar and Pasir Ris. I attended the rallys by SDA but did not see many Malays attending them. The Malays are not connected with PKMS and probably not knowing that if they knowhow to use their votes they can tip the results when non-Malay voters are split. The Malays lack political will and determination reason best known to you all. One Malay friend said to me that being a minority they cannot change circumstances. How stupid. Look at the Malaysian Chinese, they voted DAP to parliament but voted BN for the State Assembly. When BN (MCA) became weak they revert to DAP and captured Perak and Penang as well as helping Selangor to win. The BN is pressurised to relent to the demand by Chinese voters. The more BN play the racial cards the better PR performs.
I am not teaching the Malays how to vote but at least have some confidence and courage. The Party need not be allianced to PKMS but at least the Workers Party is a credible opposition. The Malays could have voted for WP in Aljunied and the PAP will scramble to win Malay votes. And that is where you will be treated equally. With only 15% Malay population, the Singapore Chinese are least worried. More so when your population seems dwindling due to migrants.
written by nazryn, September 17, 2009
The malays lack political will. Too apolegetic which in turns churn patheticness, an unfortunate and sad scenario..really...
written by Melvin, September 24, 2009
As a start if you feel there is injustice and lack of political will among your community it is essential to educate the Malay masses. Of course all must be done in a democratic way which is the ballot box.
Mind you many Malays do not know their rights as a citizen.
However, I have an idea. Why not campaign for the abolishment of the Malay rights and fight for equality irrespective of race among the citizens. So we can become colour blind and set policies based on needs and urgency but not race. Since the lower rung of the socio-economic well being of Singaporean are mostly Malays, they will benefit the most. And we no longer rely on MENDAKI or any other self help Malay-Muslim Group which are so far ineffective and a let down. The new care-taker body can come from many communities or even the existing community self-help groups and with their vast resources in terms of money and professionalism the poor can have better attention and benefits.
Why I say this is because some ministers talked about other communities being poor too and would be upset with the efforts concentrated only on the Malays. This is why this closed door kind of thing do not improve and infact showing sign of lost in direction.
With EQUALITY among the races the Malays cannot be classified under certain RACE anymore and should not be discriminated against. And if other communities are involved in the uplifting of the Malays in education and welfare, the Malays will feel indepted and grateful to the nation. And they would not feel marginalised and would repay the good intention with studying harder and preserve family unity.
What say you Kartini.
written by Nazryn81, September 28, 2009
We have it here in Singapore...
There never was bro...it's all a farce...
written by Melvin, September 28, 2009
The native Malays were more friendly with us, the Peranakan Chinese. Our parents sang the Dondang Sayang together but that cannot be said of the Boyanese or the Javanese or the Bugis. When I spoke to the Boyanese they say they are not Malays but Boyanese. But they enjoy the priveleges as accorded in Article 152. Some even qualify as a "Malay" MPs although they are of the Boyanese and Javanese origin. And they are very thankful to the PAP government. Correct me if I am wrong.





Zainuddin is currently out of job and he is an ex-Utusan staff. So he needs to curry flavour Najib and his goons who spends time to try to be in power. They are not working now because their political base is weak and they need to stir emotions of the people to stay in power.
Unlike Singapore with a storng government, SIngapore can focus on the economy and also maintain peace. You forgot to mention how Lee Kuan Yew, Goh CHok Tong and Lee Hsien Loong hits out at race bigotry and ensure the Chinese majority in Singapore respect the rights of the minority.
The Singapore Model has worked and The Malaysian Moel has Failed!
Simple as that but UMNO will never recognise the Truth!!!